[jaws-uk] Re: Key Combinations
- From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:47:36 +0100
Flor,
I don't think you understood me. I meant you use the right hand for the
insert and control keys. This leaves your left hand totally free for the I
key.
Nigel
It's not what Operating system you use, it's how productive you are with it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 8:58 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Key Combinations
Some people naturally have small hands, so it'd be a stretch for the
left hand to i.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 2:04 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Key Combinations
Control insert I is pretty easy if you use your right hand for insert
and
control (on the right side of the keybord) and your left hand for the I.
Thanks,
Nigel
It's not what Operating system you use, it's how productive you are with
it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:34 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Key Combinations
That's a real wrist-breaker.
Iain.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:42 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Key Combinations
Regarding the use of the alt key: Has anybody else noticed that
recent
versions of JAWS also think that our alt-gr (right alt & ctrl key) is
'alt'; and not 'ctrl-alt' as JAWS used to know it? What it is is that
they're taking the English-US keyboard layout as the norm: whereas,
JAWS
should be taking the correct key designation from whichever keyboard
layout one is actually using at the time.
There's a fairly acrobatic keystroke for registering (or something)
your
WordPerfect with JAWS, and that is, ctrl-insert-i.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Wood" <scott.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:48 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Key Combinations
Hi Ian
An interesting question. It's not only the four key ones that are
contortionist. I find some of the three key ones pretty
finger-twisting. The one I've been using recently is the MS Word one
for insert the date, shift+alt+D. it's just that none of the keys
fall
into ergonomic simplicity and I have to hold down alt+D with the left
hand, which isn't usual, and the shift with the right. Once you get
used to it, it becomes easier but it takes some practice.
I reckin we're running out of permutations. It would be interesting
to
hear whether anyone had any ideas about how we might find other ways
of
executing commands other than hotkeys. The old Frank Audiodata used
to
have a dedicated keypad wich could be programmed and you could do a
lot
more than you can these days without worrying about conflicting with
other MS commands.
Regards ... Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Iain Lackie
To: jaws
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:16 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Key Combinations
Hello,
I have had cause in recent days to use the four-key combination to
examine the advanced features of webpage elements and it caused me to
wonder if anyone would like to suggest what they think the most
unreachable JAWS key combination might be. There is no doubt that
Freedom Scientific encourage us to go in for a high degree of manual
contortionism.
Iain.
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left hand to i.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 2:04 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Key Combinations
Control insert I is pretty easy if you use your right hand for insert and control (on the right side of the keybord) and your left hand for the I.
Thanks,
Nigel
It's not what Operating system you use, it's how productive you are with
it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:34 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Key Combinations
recentThat's a real wrist-breaker.
Iain.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:42 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Key Combinations
Regarding the use of the alt key: Has anybody else noticed that
JAWSversions of JAWS also think that our alt-gr (right alt & ctrl key) is 'alt'; and not 'ctrl-alt' as JAWS used to know it? What it is is that they're taking the English-US keyboard layout as the norm: whereas,
yourshould be taking the correct key designation from whichever keyboard layout one is actually using at the time.
There's a fairly acrobatic keystroke for registering (or something)
fallWordPerfect with JAWS, and that is, ctrl-insert-i.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Wood" <scott.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:48 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Key Combinations
Hi Ian
An interesting question. It's not only the four key ones that are contortionist. I find some of the three key ones pretty finger-twisting. The one I've been using recently is the MS Word one for insert the date, shift+alt+D. it's just that none of the keys
tointo ergonomic simplicity and I have to hold down alt+D with the left hand, which isn't usual, and the shift with the right. Once you get used to it, it becomes easier but it takes some practice.
I reckin we're running out of permutations. It would be interesting
hear whether anyone had any ideas about how we might find other waysof
executing commands other than hotkeys. The old Frank Audiodata usedto
have a dedicated keypad wich could be programmed and you could do alot
21/10/2005more than you can these days without worrying about conflicting with other MS commands.
Regards ... Scott
----- Original Message ----- From: Iain Lackie
To: jaws
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:16 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Key Combinations
Hello, I have had cause in recent days to use the four-key combination to examine the advanced features of webpage elements and it caused me to wonder if anyone would like to suggest what they think the most unreachable JAWS key combination might be. There is no doubt that Freedom Scientific encourage us to go in for a high degree of manual contortionism.
Iain.
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