[jaws-uk] Re: Jaws IE idea

Forms mode if it is a problem has been foxing Jaws since before the 
invention of the quick navigation keys all the way back to version 3.30. 
Typically though my experience is that forms mode is not usually a problem 
for most Jaws users once explained.  In addition with Jaws 5.0 and above 
insert+F5 lists the edit fields of a web page allowing very easy access to 
specific edit fields which you can press enter to locate and put you in 
forms mode ready to go, and if you use tab from there you can do the job 
very satisfactorally.

The only people that really struggle with forms mode sometimes are people 
who act as helpers or sometimes trainers for Jaws who find the web difficult 
with Jaws running.  I find I have to explain to them that what they see on 
screen as a flashing cursor in an edit field may not necessarily be of 
relevance and they need to apreciate they are driving a screen reader.  In 
fact failure to observe this as a trainer would be a real problem because 
understanding of the speech and what that is doing is so crucial to 
operating Jaws.

If you think of forms being like somebody with a paper form in their hand 
and once they find the first spot to fill in they pick up a pen, just so on 
the web with Jaws you press enter on a a web field to say "now I'm giong to 
filll this in".  Once they have it in their hand they can go to the next bit 
to complete the rest of the form.

The quick nav keys in my hunble opinion have been one of the most 
significant advnaces for screen readers in that it puts advanced tools very 
neatly under the fingers that allows the user to navigate the page 
structurally rather than top fo bottom which on some pages is both time 
consuming if not a mess.  It takes a little practice and skill but like any 
useful tool you need to put in a little effort.

Regards.

Tristram Llewellyn
Sight and Sound Technology
Technical Support
www.sightandsound.co.uk

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 4:33 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Jaws IE idea


Since all the keys used to navigate IE with Jaws are jaws keys I think it
would make sense if the Jaws key had to be held down to use them.  This
would also mean the user does not have to remember if they are in forms mode
or not and can just enter data when they get to a form field.

What do you think?

Thanks,
Nigel

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