[jaws-uk] Re: Headings in web pages

   Barry,

   No problem, please pass on my comments and let them know I'll be happy
to help if they have any questions.

Tink.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 11:00 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Headings in web pages


I'm sorry, Tink.  The problem was not on the home page but on the useful
links page.  I thought I had pasted the URL to that page but, obviously, I
did not.

I presume you have read the reply from George.  I do think it is important
to draw their attention to the spacer image graphics.  If you don't mind,
I
will send them the relevant points from your message regarding this.

Thanks

Barry

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Jaws UK" <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Headings in web pages


Barry,

   I've just had a look at this page:
http://www.nalsvi.org

   I can't replicate the problem you are having and I can't find any
headings within the html code either. The designers appear to have
visually
presented headings by simply using an enlarged font size, rather than
using
the specific html code for marking up a heading.

   I'm using Jaws 6.1, should this be a version issue.  I can't see any
logical reason for this to happen, either with previous versions of Jaws
or
any other. It's possible that some combination of the JavaScript and
frames
used on the site is confusing Jaws, but this is only a very random guess
at
the cause of this behaviour.

   Another possibility is that much of the code isn't very well formed.
Html tags are opened but not closed properly. Ordinarily, this wouldn't
make
much difference from the browser point of view, but it's something that
could be causing a screen reader some difficulty. Again, just another shot
in the dark.

   One suggestion I would make to the developers of the site, if you are
able to contact them, would be to change the way they have given a text
description to their spacer images.

   Spacer images are invisible to the onlooker, but because of the
accessibility guideline that says that all images must have a text
description, they are each being announced with the word, "spacer", to
screen reader users. There are many of these on the page, which is quite
time consuming to listen to. It is possible to hide these images from
screen
readers as well as from visual users.

   The code at the moment probably looks something like this, for one of
those images:

<img src="spacer.gif" alt="spacer" />

   If they alter it to something like this:

<img src="spacer.gif" alt="" />

   With nothing between the quote marks of the alt="" attribute, then
those
images will become unobtrusive to everyone, whilst keeping in line with
accessibility guidelines.

HTH,
Tink.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:47 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Headings in web pages


Hi Vanja

As I know the people who own the particular site, is there anything I can
suggest to them that would rectify the problem?

Thanks

Barry

----- Original Message ----- From: "Vanja Sudar" <vanja@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:11 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Headings in web pages


Hi Barry, unfortunately you can't do anything about this, it's the way
the
page is coded.
Vanja
MSN messenger: sudar23@xxxxxxxxxxx
AIM: vanja121
Skype: vanja121
http://www.sudar.co.uk
----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Jaws list" <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 6:49 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Headings in web pages


Hi all

On some web pages, jaws reads *heading level...* on nearly every line of
text.  One such page is:

http://www.nalsvi.org/

Do I have a setting wrong in JFW or is it the web page that is at fault?

Thanks

Barry

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