Hello Robin I did not get the earlier request though I did receive a lot of these=20 automated responses because of list problems. Presumably These mails were=20 caught up in these problems. To clarify what I am trying to do. The default setting for Excel is that=20 when the program is loaded cell visibility is set to off. In order to turn=20 it on it is necessary to go into verbosity settings (Insert+v) and then=20 activate this option. The annoying thing is that each time a new workbook i= s=20 loaded or each time Excel is closed or loaded the same process needs to be= =20 followed to activate cell visibility. The setting can be saved for an=20 individual workbook by pressing Control+Enter when exiting verbosity=20 settings but this only affects the workbook in question. For example, if th= e=20 cell visibility on option is saved for a workbook called T"est", when Test=20 is loaded cell visibility is turned on but if "WorkBook1" is loaded cell=20 visibility is turned off because this is the default setting for JAWS. I am= =20 trying to alter the default setting of JAWS so that cell visibility is=20 turned on by default. I hope this is clearer. I don't know if there was a way of achieving this in earlier versions. Peter Bentley ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Robin Clayden" <r.clayden@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 8:49 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Cell visibility in Excel > Peter, > > As someone else mentioned, can you explain in more detail what exactly > you are trying to achieve, or what you want jaws to do in Excel? Is this > something that worked in older versions?=3D20 > > If you have an older version of jaws on your pc which performs Ok with > the prog, why not try copying across the excel.jcf file? Just a > suggestion. > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Peter Bentley > Sent: 17 May 2007 18:21 > To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Cell visibility in Excel > > > Robin > > Thanks for the suggestion. Checking this option does not solve the > problem=3D3D20 > but thanks for the suggestion. > > Peter > ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20 > From: "Robin Clayden" <r.clayden@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 2:56 PM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Cell visibility in Excel > > >> Peter, >> >> In verbocity settings, have you checked the item smart help messages, >> number 17 of 19 I think. >> >> Try checking that and see if it does the trick... Don't ask me why >> either. >> >> Cheers, Robin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Peter Bentley >> Sent: 17 May 2007 11:51 >> To: JAWS Group >> Subject: [jaws-uk] Cell visibility in Excel >> >> >> Hello >> >> Sorry for the repost but nobody responded to my first try. Perhaps > there >> is >> not a way. >> >> Using JAWS 7.10 and above together with Excel 2000 (though I suspect > the >> same would apply for later versions) >> >> Can somebody tell me please how to adjust JAWS so that "cell text >> visibility" is spoken by default. I know this can be changed using the >> verbosity menu and that these settings can be saved for this > particular >> workbook using control+enter but I would like to change the default so >> that >> this automatically happens each time excel is opened. 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