[jaws-uk] Re: An old chestnut
- From: "Darren H" <darren@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 10:22:37 +0100
You beat me to it John, lol.
Cheers
Darren
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From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of John SAVAGE
Sent: 07 September 2011 10:15
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: An old chestnut
Alex, you've overlooked a crucial word in Amie's post: "substandard". All
contributors to this thread have made it clear that they're happy to pay a
fair price for a good product. What pees us off is when FS slips below
acceptable standards yet still charges us top whack.
John.
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From: "Alex Stone - CW" <Alex.Stone-CW@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 9:52 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: An old chestnut
> Amie, yes, but the logical extension of that argument is that
> everything should be free and nobody should be expected to pay for (or
> do) anything.
> Cheers
> Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> On Behalf Of Amie Slavin
> Sent: 06 September 2011 17:15
> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: An old chestnut
>
> But I don't think I do need to put myself in their position. I'm a
> customer, a consumer. It is for them to put themselves, as a
> profit-making business, in my position. Even as a self-employed sole
> trader I wouldn't dream of using my need for income as an excuse for
> monopolising a captive market with a substandard product. Neither
> would any of the business people of my acquaintance. It is for
> businesses to serve customers; not the other way around.
> Bang :o) (for Tom)
> A
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Graham Page
> Sent: 06 September 2011 16:12
> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: An old chestnut
>
> Amie yes I'm afraid you are rather going off on one. You need to put
> yourself in the position of the manufacturer of the screenreader who
> relies on the screenreader sales for income.
>
> Yes there are problems with the over all model. Yes I have problems
> with some aspects of the way freedom scientific in particular chooses
> to do business i.e. aggressive use of law suits.
> It is interesting to note that while apple has developed its own
> screenreader, there is also some suggestion at least that the next
> version of windows 8 will have a more useful screenreader built in.
>
> I do hope that there will come a time when expensive screenreaders
> that cost more than the hardware they run on will not be required as
> they will be part of the operating system but if programmers and
> technical support people have to live off the revenue of sales from a
> screenreader it is likely to be expensive.
>
> Regards
>
> Graham
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> [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Amie Slavin
> Sent: 06 September 2011 14:24
> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: An old chestnut
>
> For sure, just as I'm looking at JAWS 12. What a confounded rip-off
> the whole racket is.
> Well done us for not swearing (lol) when, yet again, confronted with
> this very old chestnut, centring on blind people being an easy target
> for those intent on making money out of tech sighted people would
> laugh out of the water.
> Anyway, here I go, off on one: chunter chunter chunter.
> Thanks Tom, for pointing this out. Important info.
> A
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of tom.reid21@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: 06 September 2011 14:17
> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jaws-uk] An old chestnut
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I've gone on for some time about access 2003--7 not being read
> properly under xp. the tab is silent.
>
> Through sightandsound, we have a reply from F s saying that it is a
> known issue under xp and vista.
>
> here's the punch line, though, it is scheduled to be fixed under jaws
> 13.
>
> I've got an sma for this so may be okay if it is fixed, but, what
> about those who haven't.
>
> Surely, this is not good enough.
>
> anybody affected should raise this.
>
> tom
>
>
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