[j-say list] Re: improvement for the next version of J-say Pro

  • From: "Brian Hartgen" <Brian.Hartgen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:11:13 +0100

I will put this on the ever growig list of features, all possible of
course technically.

-----Original Message-----
From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Jenkins
Sent: 22 October 2006 11:10
To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [j-say list] Re: improvement for the next version of J-say Pro

Hello Brian.

Another suggestion that I would like to see in a future version of J-say
Pro is a get yesterday's date command to go along with the get date
command.
Also I wish the date string was made accessible to the user just in case
they don't like how it prints the date.  Are so they can add a space
before the date.  Within what I do the subject in a lot of my e-mail has
the subject "problems on today's date" with today's date obviously being
the date of writing the e-mail.  However sometimes I wait till after
midnight to write the e-mail and need to ride in yesterday's date
instead of today's date.  Also I wish the command could check to see if
there needed to be a space inserted or not.  The way the command is now
I have to remember to say space before I use the get date command.

Thank you for reading.

Chris.  

-----Original Message-----
From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Jenkins
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 5:49 AM
To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [j-say list] Re: improvement for the next version of J-say Pro

Hello Brian.

I guess you're right.  Remember I also said it may just be a learning
curve on my part.  I will probably grow used to the numbering system.
But I was thinking if you bring 10 words and to the correction dialog
box you are going to have to remember which numbers that you have
already asked to be spoken.  I was thinking have both choices so you
could say speak word 8 and you could then say speak previous word and
speak next word until you find the word you want to correct.  But you
don't have to remember each word number and keep track of each word
number that you have used.  Also what will happen if you say speak word
21 but you only brought 10 words into the correction dialog box?

Thank you for reading.

Chris.


-----Original Message-----
From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Brian Hartgen
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 5:15 AM
To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [j-say list] Re: improvement for the next version of J-say Pro

Hi Chris

We have this functionality already do we not?  If you say "speak word
1", "speak word 2", etc., this is precisely what you are asking for I
would think.  Conversely, you can go back by saying the commands in the
reverse order.  This is better than the conventional "speak next word"
command.  As an example, if I bring the whole of the phrase "my name is
Brian Hartgen" into the box, I may not remember that it is word five I
want to delete, but I do know it's near the end of the phrase.  So I can
take a guess and say "speak word 4".  If that is not correct, I will be
near to the target and can say "speak word 5".


-----Original Message-----
From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Jenkins
Sent: 22 October 2006 09:09
To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [j-say list] Re: improvement for the next version of J-say Pro

Hello Brian.

Another problem that I have is when I bring a phrase into the correction
dialog box I cannot remember the word number of the need to correct.
This may just be something I need to learn and I probably will.  But I
hope to see a say previous word and say next word  command while in the
correction dialog box in a future version.  I know that this command
exists already the only problem is it does not have the word selected so
you can type over it.

Once again I still say I am enjoying this new version of J-say Pro.  It
is just my opinion to make problems known very early so they will stand
a better chance of being included in the next version.

Thank you for reading.

Chris.

-----Original Message-----
From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Brian Hartgen
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 3:31 AM
To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [j-say list] Re: improvement for the next version of J-say Pro

Hi Sue

I hope as from this version however you will be saying "cancel that"
rather than "click cancel" (smile).  I am sure you will.

We think it is quite important to teach people to use the J-Say phrasing
as opposed to the Dragon phrasing and I am sure we will be extending
this kind of terminology in the coming versions.  As Terry eloquently
said in his part of the Main Menu presentation, we hope that people will
think that they are using J-Say, as opposed to JAWS and Dragon.  To
follow this example a little, the term "click cancel" means nothing to a
blind person because they do not click anything. However "cancel that"
is more effective.

I think that now we have the special command interface in place, and
additional tools such as J-Say contacts, this is the start of working
towards a very dedicated interface for non-visual voice input/output
users.

But to return to the original point Chris made, we will certainly look
at this.  We have put in a lot of extra code because there were many
situations (in this varied depending upon the Office version being used)
where if you were dictating in the body field, on exiting the correction
box Dragon would move to an alternative field.  We have tried to put
some checks in to rectify this situation should it happen and I am sure
access to the correction box will be an ongoing issue we will work on in
every upcoming version in some form or another.


Brian Hartgen

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue Martin" <smartin27@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:49 AM
Subject: [j-say list] Re: improvement for the next version of J-say Pro


> Chris,
>
> I've experienced the same thing.  In fact it happened during a 
> presentation in Los Angeles last March.  What I did then and what I 
> still do is simply say, "click cancel," and then try again.  No idea 
> why it happens but there you are.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Chris Jenkins
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 1:18 AM
> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [j-say list] improvement for the next version of J-say Pro
>
>
> Sometimes when I'm in the body of an e-mail message and I have to go 
> into the correction dialog box I still get excessive chatter while in 
> the correction dialog box.  What I mean by excessive chatter is a lot 
> more than box open and box closed.  If it matters to my knowledge I 
> have everything set up correctly within Microsoft Outlook 2003.  This 
> behavior only happens when it wants to.  I have not taken the time yet

> to track down when it happens and when it does not.  I know it 
> happened when I was replying to a e-mail message while ago.  But it 
> did not happen while writing this e-mail message.
>
> Thank you for reading.
>
> Chris.
>
>
>
>
> 




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