[j-say list] Re: improvement for the next version of J-say Pro

  • From: "Chris Jenkins" <saveup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 05:48:31 -0400

Hello Brian.

I guess you're right.  Remember I also said it may just be a learning curve
on my part.  I will probably grow used to the numbering system.  But I was
thinking if you bring 10 words and to the correction dialog box you are
going to have to remember which numbers that you have already asked to be
spoken.  I was thinking have both choices so you could say speak word 8 and
you could then say speak previous word and speak next word until you find
the word you want to correct.  But you don't have to remember each word
number and keep track of each word number that you have used.  Also what
will happen if you say speak word 21 but you only brought 10 words into the
correction dialog box?

Thank you for reading.

Chris.


-----Original Message-----
From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Brian Hartgen
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 5:15 AM
To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [j-say list] Re: improvement for the next version of J-say Pro

Hi Chris

We have this functionality already do we not?  If you say "speak word 1",
"speak word 2", etc., this is precisely what you are asking for I would
think.  Conversely, you can go back by saying the commands in the reverse
order.  This is better than the conventional "speak next word"
command.  As an example, if I bring the whole of the phrase "my name is
Brian Hartgen" into the box, I may not remember that it is word five I want
to delete, but I do know it's near the end of the phrase.  So I can take a
guess and say "speak word 4".  If that is not correct, I will be near to the
target and can say "speak word 5".


-----Original Message-----
From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Jenkins
Sent: 22 October 2006 09:09
To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [j-say list] Re: improvement for the next version of J-say Pro

Hello Brian.

Another problem that I have is when I bring a phrase into the correction
dialog box I cannot remember the word number of the need to correct.
This may just be something I need to learn and I probably will.  But I hope
to see a say previous word and say next word  command while in the
correction dialog box in a future version.  I know that this command exists
already the only problem is it does not have the word selected so you can
type over it.

Once again I still say I am enjoying this new version of J-say Pro.  It is
just my opinion to make problems known very early so they will stand a
better chance of being included in the next version.

Thank you for reading.

Chris.

-----Original Message-----
From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Brian Hartgen
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 3:31 AM
To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [j-say list] Re: improvement for the next version of J-say Pro

Hi Sue

I hope as from this version however you will be saying "cancel that"
rather than "click cancel" (smile).  I am sure you will.

We think it is quite important to teach people to use the J-Say phrasing as
opposed to the Dragon phrasing and I am sure we will be extending this kind
of terminology in the coming versions.  As Terry eloquently said in his part
of the Main Menu presentation, we hope that people will think that they are
using J-Say, as opposed to JAWS and Dragon.  To follow this example a
little, the term "click cancel" means nothing to a blind person because they
do not click anything. However "cancel that"
is more effective.

I think that now we have the special command interface in place, and
additional tools such as J-Say contacts, this is the start of working
towards a very dedicated interface for non-visual voice input/output users.

But to return to the original point Chris made, we will certainly look at
this.  We have put in a lot of extra code because there were many situations
(in this varied depending upon the Office version being used) where if you
were dictating in the body field, on exiting the correction box Dragon would
move to an alternative field.  We have tried to put some checks in to
rectify this situation should it happen and I am sure access to the
correction box will be an ongoing issue we will work on in every upcoming
version in some form or another.


Brian Hartgen

MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
SKYPE: brianhartgen
SKYPE IN UK:  0208-133-7186
SKYPE IN US: 213-985-3581
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue Martin" <smartin27@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:49 AM
Subject: [j-say list] Re: improvement for the next version of J-say Pro


> Chris,
>
> I've experienced the same thing.  In fact it happened during a 
> presentation in Los Angeles last March.  What I did then and what I 
> still do is simply say, "click cancel," and then try again.  No idea 
> why it happens but there you are.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Chris Jenkins
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 1:18 AM
> To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [j-say list] improvement for the next version of J-say Pro
>
>
> Sometimes when I'm in the body of an e-mail message and I have to go 
> into the correction dialog box I still get excessive chatter while in 
> the correction dialog box.  What I mean by excessive chatter is a lot 
> more than box open and box closed.  If it matters to my knowledge I 
> have everything set up correctly within Microsoft Outlook 2003.  This 
> behavior only happens when it wants to.  I have not taken the time yet

> to track down when it happens and when it does not.  I know it 
> happened when I was replying to a e-mail message while ago.  But it 
> did not happen while writing this e-mail message.
>
> Thank you for reading.
>
> Chris.
>
>
>
>
> 




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