[iyonix-support] Re: iyonix 2 or not
- From: Xavier Tardy <xatardy@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: iyonix-support@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:35:56 +0200
John Ballance a écrit :
Hi
Having failed to get logged into drobe to respond to something there I
thought I'd make a couple of comments here.
Iyonix 2: This would have been rather a nice machine.. dual core cpu
etc .. absorbed many months of my design time. Then came the crunch
question.. could we make it at a price people would pay, and would
enough ACTUALLY pay that price.. rumours have suggested a build cost
to a first batch of 10 to 30 machines of between 50 and 100k ..
probably not unreasonable at commercial rates, considering the CPU had
just under 1500 connections on it and itself would have cost over
£100!.. that would mean that sales of several hundred units would be
needed at similar costs to the current (almost) standard iyonix.
Would several hundred of you or others actually commit to this.. or
would we be left thoroughly out of pocket?
To put it bluntly, we could not make the sums add up! - however hard
we tried.
For the future, once the remaining stock of machines is exhausted (<10
first come first served) iyonix will continue to trade, as reported,
in spares and accessories.
I shall be around, initially within iyonix, then in my own right,
providing support as reasonably required.
Castle continues to license RISCOS as before.. all product work has
been undertaken in iyonix in recent times to protect the IP ownership
as others have rightly deduced.
So Thank You all for your support over the years.. It has been an
iteresting time.
Now to the future.. Do have a look at http://www.ucallusave.co.uk ..
this is a part time thing I've been involved with recently that has
saved me considerable amounts of money. Recent announcements, which
will be will be reflected there tomorrow I'm told, should help further.
A challenge indeed - who would like to get 5% cashback on all their
groceries and fuel costs? .. how? .. drop me a line and I'll explain
Many thanks
John
So sad.
I think the same I thought when Acorn went bankrupt, and you're going to
tell me that I'm really very French for this.
BUT : I do think it's a shame there is no money from your state to help
this kind of very innovative company to stay alive.
Somehow an ARM based computer with RISC OS is a step away from the USA
hegemony, and a chance for Europe.
Sorry for those who think these liars and thieves are their friends.(I
mean : the 1% of the US population ruling the ignorant remaining mass).
BTW allow me to burst out laughing seeing the people who thouht the
market was so clever than it could regulate everything and blabla
now all knocking at the door of the states to save them.
Better than the circus.
So the Iyonix is dead, long live the remaining and future ARM based
machines.
Good night.
Be ready for the great disaster coming at your homes, jobs, assets, and
eventually physical integrity if war is,
once more, chosen by our leaders to start the machine again.
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HiHaving failed to get logged into drobe to respond to something there I thought I'd make a couple of comments here.
Iyonix 2: This would have been rather a nice machine.. dual core cpu etc .. absorbed many months of my design time. Then came the crunch question.. could we make it at a price people would pay, and would enough ACTUALLY pay that price.. rumours have suggested a build cost to a first batch of 10 to 30 machines of between 50 and 100k .. probably not unreasonable at commercial rates, considering the CPU had just under 1500 connections on it and itself would have cost over £100!.. that would mean that sales of several hundred units would be needed at similar costs to the current (almost) standard iyonix.
Would several hundred of you or others actually commit to this.. or would we be left thoroughly out of pocket?
To put it bluntly, we could not make the sums add up! - however hard we tried.
For the future, once the remaining stock of machines is exhausted (<10 first come first served) iyonix will continue to trade, as reported, in spares and accessories.
I shall be around, initially within iyonix, then in my own right, providing support as reasonably required.
Castle continues to license RISCOS as before.. all product work has been undertaken in iyonix in recent times to protect the IP ownership as others have rightly deduced.
So Thank You all for your support over the years.. It has been an iteresting time.
Now to the future.. Do have a look at http://www.ucallusave.co.uk .. this is a part time thing I've been involved with recently that has saved me considerable amounts of money. Recent announcements, which will be will be reflected there tomorrow I'm told, should help further.
A challenge indeed - who would like to get 5% cashback on all their groceries and fuel costs? .. how? .. drop me a line and I'll explain
Many thanks John
- [iyonix-support] iyonix 2 or not
- From: John Ballance