[iyonix-support] Re: Pyjama effect - thoughts
- From: John Ballance <jwb@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: iyonix-support@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:13:27 +0000
Hi Richard
RJT wrote:
Another Pyjama photo (800k) at
http://www.4qd.org/temp/pj.jpeg
The contents of the screen memory when it happens are clearly semi-random.
But what's stopping the normal boot happening? I doubt that is the
graphics card. Has to be some problem in the ROM based boot system
accessing corrupted memory, does it not?
What actually happens is that the graphics card GPU makes a hash of its
startup.. sometimes believing it is configured for AGP usage - which
puts its pci select line on the same address as the cpu, or it comes up
with unexpected results in its POR board reset register. This register
captures various resistor pullup and pulldown settings on the graphics
card as a result of reset, and this can frequently be seen to tell lies.
As this reports to the software the hardware ram configuration etc in
the card, it usually then results in an attempt to access non existant
memory within the card - an almost guranteed hang. Earlier geforce2
cards were much better than later ones. It is rare in fx5200 cards,
which is why I suggested you return under warranty. Other dependencies
indicate power supply startup characteristics, slew rate, etc. There is
no certain cure for it that I have so far identified, though all new
machines go through an extensive burn in and test sequence to identify
and eliminate those bad combinations.
Also, as the mobo consumes minimal power, if you have a monitor or other
device that sources power back into the machine, it can hold the
internal power lines at a level sufficiently high to defeat the poweron
reset capabilities of the GPU.
hope this turns on a light or two
john
OK John - I can return my machine under guarantee. But it's a general
problem. Others want a DIY solution.
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Another Pyjama photo (800k) at http://www.4qd.org/temp/pj.jpeg The contents of the screen memory when it happens are clearly semi-random. But what's stopping the normal boot happening? I doubt that is the graphics card. Has to be some problem in the ROM based boot system accessing corrupted memory, does it not?
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