On 26 Feb 2007, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > In message <4d55c97b4e38ae19bb4e.rogerarm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Roger Darlington <rogerarm@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On 25 Feb 2007, John Ballance wrote: >> >>> Roger Darlington wrote: >>>> Twice since upgrading, (and never before) I have had total computer >>>> crashes using ROM513. >>>> >>>> I am using MessPro (4.23) and OvPro (2.77) at the same time. All of a >>>> sudden, and without any warning whatsoever, the computer totally >>>> freezes. [...] >>> >>> this suggests you may be running other software that is customised. >>> >>> Please return your machine as far as possible to standard.. i.e. not >>> overloading it with 3rd party software, and confirm whether the >>> behaviour is different. >> >> The total system freeze appears to happen at the moment of initiating >> a save operation. > > Yes, I have seen that problem, too - many months if not years ago, so > whatever causes this problem RISC OS 5.13 is not to blame. Every now > and then saving an e-mail in MPro caused a total freeze. The problem > has gone away at some stage and it was never established what caused > it. Basically, any significant system change (e.g., installing a new > module in your boot sequence) causes memory locations to change, so > the effects of a bug in some piece of software could change from > harmless to a system freeze. Obviously, installing a new version of > the OS is a big change. In my case, I don't think I can attribute the truncation of the MessPro 'NewsRCfile' to that cause. I think it got truncated by the Fatal Crash of the computer which just happened to occur as MessPro/NetFetch/News was automatically downloading/saving something during my attempt to save an OvPro file. It was the saving of the OvPro file, I think, that caused the crash. The OvPro file never got saved. The MessPro file got truncated. This has happened twice when saving an OvPro file (though to the detriment of a MessPro file only once). . > > Martin -- Cheers Roger Bury Walkers http://burywalkers.members.beeb.net/ Atomic Software http://rogerdarlington.members.beeb.net/ Summer Winers http://rogerarm.freeuk.com/rogerarm/ Bury Hut http://buryhut.members.beeb.net/ Wild Flowers http://rdarlington.members.beeb.net/ Visit Ellesmere Port Boat Museum - Its Free! --- To alter your preferences or leave the group, visit //www.freelists.org/list/iyonix-support Other info via //www.freelists.org/webpage/iyonix-support