[iyonix-support] Re: Correcting Firefox assumptions
- From: Xavier Tardy <xatardy@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: iyonix-support@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:15:33 +0200
Thank you.
I won't post the naughty chats we've had for the last 2 hours.
Sorry I hurt your ego, but I still don't see any insults in my comments.
Buy pills, see a shrink, or go breathe some fresh air, you really need it.
Regards,
Xavier.
Peter Naulls a écrit :
Sorry, I can't reply directly to the original, I wasn't subscribed at
the time, but I'm referring to this post:
http://www.freelists.org/archives/iyonix-support/06-2008/msg00047.html
> it's very frustrating to realize that the programmer bypassed the
Operating System routines and implemented his own, faulty ones.
Firefox doesn't not subvert any RISC OS routines or drivers. Apart from
that is, UnixLib (vs SCL) and Tinct (vs Select alpha plotting) but those
are incidental to issues mentioned here and provide functionality that
is otherwise absent, and in any case are also used by NetSurf.
> Firefox doesn't recognize the French keyboard (RISC OS does it well)
This isn't a bug report since I don't know what "doesn't recognize"
means. Firefox uses entirely legal methods of accessing the keyboard,
so I don't care to speculate on what's wrong here, except to say the
input code has many layers of code.
> Firefox doesn't scroll pages with my USB wheel mouse (RISC OS does
it well)
Well, that's not very surprising, if you read the Firefox !Help text
about scroll bars. The paradigms in use in X (underlying Unix window
system) about how things operate are very different to those in RISC OS,
never mind the assumptions that RISC OS 5 makes with its scroll wheel
stuff (there's no interface as such, it just asks the window to move,
IIRC). Anyway, it could be fixed, but it's a whole lot of work.
The point is making assertions about how things work from
a point of ignorance is in no one's interest, and not going to
get things fixed. If you aren't sure, then ask, don't assume.
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Sorry, I can't reply directly to the original, I wasn't subscribed at the time, but I'm referring to this post: http://www.freelists.org/archives/iyonix-support/06-2008/msg00047.html> it's very frustrating to realize that the programmer bypassed the Operating System routines and implemented his own, faulty ones.
Firefox doesn't not subvert any RISC OS routines or drivers. Apart from that is, UnixLib (vs SCL) and Tinct (vs Select alpha plotting) but those are incidental to issues mentioned here and provide functionality that is otherwise absent, and in any case are also used by NetSurf. > Firefox doesn't recognize the French keyboard (RISC OS does it well) This isn't a bug report since I don't know what "doesn't recognize" means. Firefox uses entirely legal methods of accessing the keyboard, so I don't care to speculate on what's wrong here, except to say the input code has many layers of code.> Firefox doesn't scroll pages with my USB wheel mouse (RISC OS does it well)
Well, that's not very surprising, if you read the Firefox !Help text about scroll bars. The paradigms in use in X (underlying Unix window system) about how things operate are very different to those in RISC OS, never mind the assumptions that RISC OS 5 makes with its scroll wheel stuff (there's no interface as such, it just asks the window to move, IIRC). Anyway, it could be fixed, but it's a whole lot of work. The point is making assertions about how things work from a point of ignorance is in no one's interest, and not going to get things fixed. If you aren't sure, then ask, don't assume. ---To alter your preferences or leave the group, visit http://www.freelists.org/list/iyonix-support
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