I have just done the upgrade to 5.18 from 5.16, using the softload version as a precaution. Before doing so I checked that I didn't have any modules unplugged. The upgrade runs OK, and most things seem to work, but I have discovered two problems - in two different Apps, and both related to embedded images. Given the similar flavour I will raise it here first. WebWonder's page editor doesn't render any images. For background images it takes an age to load, and the window is transparent so I can see the pinboard behind the text, and for normal images they appear as place holders as if the image files were absent. They aren't absent, and the pages render OK in NetSurf. OvationPro doesn't render rotated images. It takes an age to render them, and may render the whole image, or may leave streaks across the right hand part of the image. In the middle of trying one of the O-Pro files and writing this message, I got error messages from both O-Pro and Pluto, and the machine hung. Not sure of the exact sequence. I tried both EasiWriter and Draw files with embedded images and they rendered OK. Is there something basic to do with embedded image rendering that might have changed with the upgrade that I should check? I don't recall seeing this mentioned by other folk, but if it was, apologies for missing it. Regards -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk --- To alter your preferences or leave the group, visit //www.freelists.org/list/iyonix-support Other info via //www.freelists.org/webpage/iyonix-support List-related queries to iyonix-support-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx