[isapros] Re: Hyper-V is so damn kewl...
- From: Greg Mulholland <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: ISAPros Mailing List <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 02:56:48 -0300
That's true but in our case Hyper-v offers no real benefit for us over vmware
aside from hardware virtualisation which at the moment isn't a big deal for us.
Vmware Server is free and our licensing isn't an issue either. All our
production servers would run on ESX and from what ive seen of hyperv I wouldn't
run it in critical production without the system centre add ons, even then it
still only first gen.
As for esx market space.. I would say it would be a fair amount of time before
they have a foot in that market. It just doesn't compare to ESX at the moment
and im not sure if they wanted it to, but if they have any plans to they will
need to pull their finger out and its not like Vmware will stand by and watch
it happen either.
-----Original Message-----
From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
Sent: Sunday, 11 May 2008 9:40 AM
To: ISAPros Mailing List
Subject: [isapros] Re: Hyper-V is so damn kewl...
"Free" VM capabilities within the OS with additional "free" licensing of
server products (where appropriate and applicable) have real and
definite benefits for Microsoft customers; support for VM deployments
of production servers not being the least of them.
Remote management of MFST VMs has been problematic during the
development of Virtual PC, Virtual Server, and Viridian, but it will get
better as more and more paying customers begin to take advantage of the
cost and licensing benefits. ESX is an entirely different market... But
my guess is that it won't be long before MSFT starts taking digs out of
that market share.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Mulholland
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 2:53 PM
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> Subject: RE: Hyper-V is so damn kewl...
>
> I was most unimpressed by the hyperv management console. The system
> center/virtual machine manager was the only way I would ever use it,
> but you need to be using multiple servers to warrant that, but given
> that the vmm was built on powershell it would be a good thing to drive
> from the cli if you are so inclined. That and running (read) managing
> HV on SC was near impossible unless you had rsat or another hyperv
> machine you could connect to the console (which wasn't available at
the
> time). You were supposed to be able to use wmi to drive it but I was
> told that MS hadn't finished the docco on that. It might be great when
> they finish it.
>
> Vmware beta2 has some nice things about it and you can use the ESX
> client to manage it. Having used ESX and Virtual Iron in production I
> would say they have a way to go but I'm keen to setup an environment
at
> work. We have 60 or so standalone vm boxes that dev and qa use and we
> are looking at using something to consolidate them, hyperv seems like
> it will fit the bill there.
>
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> Sent: Sunday, 11 May 2008 5:24 AM
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> Subject: [isapros] Hyper-V is so damn kewl...
>
> Got my ISA 2006 server running on Hyper-V now.
> I'll soon migrate to TMG (probably not today; gardening awaits).
>
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