[isapros] Re: Hyper-V is so damn kewl...
- From: "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 11:10:46 -0400
Time to update. Hyper-V is now it's own thing and loads right onto the
hardware. No OS underneath. And cheap too. Is price off NDA yet, Jim?
thanks,
Amy Babinchak
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From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jerry Young
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:22 AM
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] Re: Hyper-V is so damn kewl...
I thought Hyper-V was part of Server 2008. I know ESX runs on top of
Linux.
Perhaps my definition of "hardware-based virtualization" is different.
The Unisys ES7000 is one platform which I consider "hardware-based
virtualization". The Egenera BladeFrames and Blades are another. The
prior uses Server Sentinal (IIRC) to manage the hardware, and the latter
PAN Manager and vBlade Software. Once the virtual hardware boxes are
configured, though, my understanding is that the passing of architecture
is more like that which you get from a BIOS rather than software that
sits on a OS stack to which API calls are made - if that makes any
sense; there's no 'host' OS in the equation.
I had thought Hyper-V was hosted on Server 2008 and I know ESX is hosted
on Linux. I guess, I've never considered any kind of 'OS host'-based
virtualization as 'hardware-based' virtualization.
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Jim Harrison <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hyper-V is hardware-based (e.g., uses the hardware virtualization).
As of SP1, Virtual Server R2 adds "hardware-assisted" virtualization.
AFAIK, the only VMWare product that dies this is ESX...
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From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jerry Young
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:36 AM
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] Re: Hyper-V is so damn kewl...
Which are you implying is hardware-based virtualization? Or were you
just "saying"? :)
Egenera looks pretty good for hardware-based virtualization, though.
The client I'm working at currently will probably be setting up a couple
of chassis sometime in the near future. Should be interesting.
--
Cordially yours,
Jerry G. Young II
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Jim Harrison <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Regardless of the source, hardware-based virtualization
outperforms software-based virtualization hands down. In the grand
scheme of things, this point will be second only to the "religion"
motivating customers toward one virtualization technology or another.
SCVMM is intended to be the management tool of choice; that's why
they're building it.
RC1 should hit the streets soon; it'll be well worth the time to
grab & install it.
Jim
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From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Mulholland
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 2:53 PM
To: ISAPros Mailing List
Subject: [isapros] Re: Hyper-V is so damn kewl...
I was most unimpressed by the hyperv management console. The
system center/virtual machine manager was the only way I would ever use
it, but you need to be using multiple servers to warrant that, but given
that the vmm was built on powershell it would be a good thing to drive
from the cli if you are so inclined. That and running (read) managing HV
on SC was near impossible unless you had rsat or another hyperv machine
you could connect to the console (which wasn't available at the time).
You were supposed to be able to use wmi to drive it but I was told that
MS hadn't finished the docco on that. It might be great when they finish
it.
Vmware beta2 has some nice things about it and you can use the
ESX client to manage it. Having used ESX and Virtual Iron in production
I would say they have a way to go but I'm keen to setup an environment
at work. We have 60 or so standalone vm boxes that dev and qa use and we
are looking at using something to consolidate them, hyperv seems like it
will fit the bill there.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
Sent: Sunday, 11 May 2008 5:24 AM
To: ISAPros Mailing List
Subject: [isapros] Hyper-V is so damn kewl...
Got my ISA 2006 server running on Hyper-V now.
I'll soon migrate to TMG (probably not today; gardening awaits).
--
Cordially yours,
Jerry G. Young II
Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
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