RE: port scan detected
- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:37:14 -0500
Sorry, that's psychtronic. Psychotropic is an entirely different matter
;-)
Thomas W Shinder
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-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:34 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: port scan detected
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Hi Joseph,
If I had that much tinfoil I would never have to worry about
psychotropic manipulation again!
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TinFoilHat
HTH,
Tom
Thomas W Shinder
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-----Original Message-----
From: cismic [mailto:cismic@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 2:12 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: port scan detected
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If I only had a package of foil every time someone said that!
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hopkins [mailto:Mark.Hopkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:26 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: port scan detected
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Tom,
Interesting thing happened today. After creating a packet filter to
block an IP, two days ago, he port scanned me again this morning. Can
you explain this? Thanks.
Mark
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From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 4:02 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: port scan detected
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Hi Mark,
Sure. Human eyes must evaluate the nature of the attack, and human eyes
must evaluate the source location.
For example, if the "attack" if some a DNS timeout issue with your DNS
server, do you want to block that?
Another example, if the "attack" is from another admin testing his
"skills" from home, do you want to block that?
Another example, the IDS is misconfigured, do you want to block what it
says?
Another example, a legit host is infected and cleaned. Now that host is
blocked. Do you want to block that and then deal with connectivity
issues when you forgot about your blocking filters or try to fish out
the blocked host address from the thousands you your list?
Harden your hosts, use Application and Web filters, never publish a Web
site using an IP address, all the basic stuff. That's a lot more
effective than blocking addresses willy nilly.
YMMV,
Tom
Thomas W Shinder
www.isaserver.org/shinder <http://www.isaserver.org/shinder>
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Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hopkins [mailto:Mark.Hopkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:13 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: port scan detected
http://www.ISAserver.org
Tom,
Could you elaborate on this "intelligent address blocking"?
Thanks.
Mark
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From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 1:59 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: port scan detected
http://www.ISAserver.org
Ni Brian,
Nor should you. Blocking addresses that scan you is like
shooting at cars that drive past your home and look at your windows and
front door. :-) Be aware of the attempt, but you'll end up making a
critical error sooner or later if you block addresses without putting
some intelligence behind the block.
HTH,
Tom
Thomas W Shinder
www.isaserver.org/shinder <http://www.isaserver.org/shinder>
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