Re: cant find dc
- From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:38:48 -0700
(point #2) - Hear-Hear!!
Jim Harrison
MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG
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Subject: [isalist] Re: cant find dc
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Oh, I am a deployment snob too... What I was really saying is that "hey, the
normal stuff ain't workin, so give the other stuff a try if you have to." I
understand and agree with all of your points- you are indeed correct.
I really like XP... I've got it running on a couple of boxes here. Of
course, if Senator Schumer and Steve Gibson can keep their mouths shut for a
little white, the rest of the world might be able to enjoy it too!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 7:50 AM
Subject: [isalist] Re: cant find dc
> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>
> Maybe I'm just a "deployment" snob. I've seen too many problems even in
> small networks where NBT broadcasts were the order of the day. This
> functionality (for lack of a better term) is a holdover from the NetBEUI
> days of yore and is better left there (IMHO).
> Even my small (6-machine) home network has DNS. Since I don't have
anything
> "older" than W2K, I don't need WINS.
>
> BTW, if you can spare the hardware and the personal cycles, check out
WinXP.
> It's not the "omiGOD!" change that W2K was from NT4, but there are some
> really worthwhile updates and additions in there that make it a serious
> contender.
>
> Jim Harrison
> MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 7:34 AM
> Subject: [isalist] Re: cant find dc
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>
> No question there... I was ensuring that the poster was aware of all
> possible means to resolve the domain name. The "DNS or WINS" statement
> sounded kind of absolute.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 7:19 AM
> Subject: [isalist] Re: cant find dc
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> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> >
> > Trust me; relying on NBT broadcast or lmhosts files is just asking for
> major
> > confusion down the road.
> > If you can deploy a domain, you can deploy a proper name resolution
> scheme.
> >
> > Jim Harrison
> > MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 6:39 AM
> > Subject: [isalist] Re: cant find dc
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >
> > Just to be pedantic, it could resolve it via broadcast or lmhosts too...
> >
> > Quick Q for Adam- you don't have RestrictAnonymous set to 2 on the win2k
> > box, do you?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 2:08 PM
> > Subject: [isalist] Re: cant find dc
> >
> >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > >
> > > No it doesn't and that's part of the problem. If a Windows server
can't
> > > resolve the domain name through either DNS or WINS, it can't join the
> > > domain.
> > >
> > > Jim Harrison
> > > MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Adam Embrey" <aembrey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 11:52 AM
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: cant find dc
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > >
> > > I have never been able to ping domain name. unknown host.
> > >
> > > does an nt4 dc register anything special in dns?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 11:30 AM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: cant find dc
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > >
> > > You're trying to establish trust from a W2K domain to an NT4 domain?
> > > If so,
> > > 1. does the W2K DC have the correct WINS entries?
> > > 2. can you "ping domainname" successfully? If not, name
resolution
> > > isn't all you believe it is.
> > > 3. do you have DNS for the NT4 domain? W2K prefers DNS to WINS
for
> > > domain resolution.
> > >
> > > Jim Harrison
> > > MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Adam Embrey" <aembrey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:01 AM
> > > Subject: [isalist] cant find dc
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > >
> > > a bit off topic.
> > >
> > > I have users from a remote location that have an nt4 domain, this
> > > location a have a 2000 domain. I have replicated wins and name
> > > resolution is working fine but when I try and set up trust or log in
to
> > > that domain from this one it says it cant find a domain controller.
any
> > > ideas? have tried lmhosts
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