RE: automatically detect isa server problem

  • From: "JosephK" <josephk@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:50:48 -0700

Hi Thomas,
I join the internal ISA box in my back to back to the domain.
The front end ISA box isn't joined to the domain.  And I agree that the
front end really doesn't need to be added to a domain.

Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 5:33 AM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: automatically detect isa server problem

http://www.ISAserver.org

ARRRGGG!

Join that ISA firewall to the domain ASAP. It's a more secure config and
then your Firewall clients will work (which is just one of the many
reasons why a domain joined ISA firewall is more secure).

I always join ISA firewalls to the domain when appropriate. The only
time when it wouldn't provide an enhanced security posture is in a back
to back config, when the front end isn't doing any auth chores and
you're running an anonymous access DMZ between the front end and back
end.

HTH,

Tom
www.isaserver.org/shinder
Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
MVP -- ISA Firewalls

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jankees [mailto:jankees@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of info
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:29 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: automatically detect isa server problem
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> Firewall is a standalone server. (not member of any domain) Client is
> not member of any domain.
> DNS server is AD domain controller. (this is my personal exchange
> server, hence the AD.....)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:19 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: automatically detect isa server problem
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> Hi Info,
> 
> Are the clients members of the same domain as the ISA firewall?
> 
> Tom
> www.isaserver.org/shinder
> Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
> http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jankees [mailto:jankees@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of info
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:15 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: automatically detect isa server problem
> > 
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > 
> > It takes about 4 seconds before it syas: Failed to detect 
> ISA Server.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:06 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: automatically detect isa server problem
> > 
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > 
> > Hi Info,
> > 
> > OK, sounds good so far.
> > 
> > What happens when you click Detect Now?
> > 
> > Tom
> > www.isaserver.org/shinder
> > Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
> > http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jankees [mailto:jankees@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of info
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 6:57 AM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: automatically detect isa server problem
> > > 
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The configuration must almost be correct, since the 
> autodetect does
> > > work, after I do an explicit "ping wpad" from the client.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Dns is setup as follows:
> > > 
> > > Wpad                      alias (cname)    boss_lan.fels.us
> > > Boss_lan          host (A)                10.1.0.1
> > > Boss_dmz          host (A)                10.2.0.1
> > > 
> > > Default gateway of the client is 10.1.0.1
> > > 
> > > Client is on the "Internal" network.
> > > 
> > > "Internal" network settings on isa firewall:
> > > 
> > > Firewall client support is enabled.
> > > Isa server name is set to "boss_lan.fels.us"
> > > Automatically detect settings is selected.
> > > 
> > > Publish automatic discovery information is selected, 
> default port 80
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 1:26 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: automatically detect isa server problem
> > > 
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > 
> > > What are they?
> > > 
> > > Tom
> > > www.isaserver.org/shinder
> > > Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
> > > http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: jankees [mailto:jankees@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of info
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 6:22 AM
> > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: automatically detect isa server problem
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > 
> > > > Hi there,
> > > > 
> > > > I believe they are correct. What can I do?
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 1:12 PM
> > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: automatically detect isa server problem
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Info,
> > > > 
> > > > Sounds like the Firewall client listener settings aren't 
> > configured
> > > > correctly.
> > > > 
> > > > HTH,
> > > > 
> > > > Tom
> > > > www.isaserver.org/shinder
> > > > Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: info@xxxxxxx [mailto:info@xxxxxxx] 
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 6:03 AM
> > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > Subject: [isalist] automatically detect isa server problem
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have a strange problem with "wpad".
> > > > > 
> > > > > My isa firewall client will not automatically detect the 
> > > isa server.
> > > > > Only after I explicitly do a "ping wpad" from the firewall 
> > > > > client, the dns
> > > > > cache is filled on the client with the wpad entry. Only then, 
> > > > > the firewall
> > > > > client can "automatically" detect the isa server.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Why do I have to explicitly do a "ping wpad". According to 
> > > > > the manual, the
> > > > > firewall client is supposed to do it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In my scenario, there is only 1 isa server and the dns server 
> > > > > is running
> > > > > on a different server.
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