So you were born a poor black child? The first part of the movie is the best. Amy -----Original Message----- From: Thor [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:51 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page? http://www.ISAserver.org The new phonebooks are here! The new phonebooks are here! T ----- Original Message ----- From: "josephk" <josephk@xxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:33 PM Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page? http://www.ISAserver.org Steve Martin your not. -----Original Message----- From: Thor [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:51 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page? http://www.ISAserver.org Hopefully I didn't come off as a *complete* jerk about that ;) t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:20 PM Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page? http://www.ISAserver.org Thor waves his mighty hammer. I'm more the nurturing type. I think of it as nurturing the small business network and have written articles referring to it that way. I start by fixing a few things that no one else has been able to fix for them. Now, they trust me. Next, we talk about their wish list. To implement the wish list you are going to need X hardware and X software. I don't work with pirated software so if you want to do business with me the first thing you have to do is get legal. Getting legal usually means new versions of the software, which usually means new hardware to run it on. Where's the backup of your data? What if that machine dies? Have you ever had a computer die? Yes? This gets things rolling in the right direction. It's a slow moving ball at first but it picks up speed. Amy -----Original Message----- From: Thor [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:03 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page? http://www.ISAserver.org I tend to take a hard line with my clients... I just tell them that there is a right way and a wrong way to do things, and that if they want to do it the wrong way, then I tell them to get someone else to do it. I used to try the "I can't be responsible for what happens" line, but if they are my client, I am responsible. It is easier to walk than to have to deal with other people's screw ups. Also, even when they cry poor mouth loudly, taking them for a ride and showing them that I can access all their accounting data (indeed, *all* other data, too) from my truck while parked behind a coffee shop tends to open up their eyes a bit. Normally, they say- "The guy who set this up was really good, and he said it was all perfectly secure." And I say, "Not withstanding the expertise of the technician or the presumed security posture of your network, I *am* sitting in a shell on your server as admin. See that? That's your payroll data." That always helps :) T ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: josephk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist