RE: WMF Vunrability

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-----Original Message-----
From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: January 4, 2006 12:01 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: WMF Vunrability

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I wouldn't call it "program like behavior."  They just contain both
metadata and rendering data in the same file (as I understand it.)

Renaming the file to something like ".gif" or ".jpg" could still cause
execution if loaded from a file, but only if the Picture and Fax Viewer
was the default program for those file types.  From a browser, for WP&FV
to open it and parse the data, it has to be that MIME type (again, as I
understand
it.)

While I've read here that the "way to do it" is how GFI does it, I've
still not seen any information on why simple content filtering won't
work.  But then again, I read where Jim is working with MSRC to come up
with a "workable" filter.  It would be nice to get some authoritative,
detailed information on why MIME and file type filtering *won't* work.

t


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:31 AM
Subject: [isalist] RE: WMF Vunrability


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Hi Tim,

Don't know about that, but it's a good question. But I have to wonder
about other apps that  open the WMF files. FWIU, WMF files have some
program like behavior that allow it to call other programs if something
doesn't work.

How's that as a erudite description for a process? :)

Tom

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 12:13 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: WMF Vunrability
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> But if he sets a differnt mime type, Fax Viewer won't open
> the program,
> right?
>
> t
> -----
> "I may disapprove of what you say,
> but I will defend to the death your
> right to say it."
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>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:32 AM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: WMF Vunrability
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>
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> Hi Jonathon,
>
> That won't work, because the scumbag can use any file name he wants.
> Same goes with the MIME type. The MIME type is set at the Web
> server, so
> the scumbag can associate any MIME type he wants.
>
> Tom
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> **Who is John Galt?**
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jonathon J. Howey [mailto:Jonathon@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:25 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: WMF Vunrability
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> > What I did to block it was:
> >
> > Internet Access Policy -> Protocols tab -> Filtering ->
> Configure HTTP
> > -> Extensions tab.  Should be self explanatory from there.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jonathon J. Howey
> > KPSA Compliance Management Inc.
> > P 780.409.5620
> > F 780.409.5621
> > D 780.409.5628
> > C 780.965.8363
> > Jonathon@xxxxxxx
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> > Guiding the Future of Transportation
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: January 4, 2006 10:12 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: WMF Vunrability
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> > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> > He never stated what his "block" was.
> >
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian Boyes [mailto:BrianB@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 09:02
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> > Subject: [isalist] RE: WMF Vunrability
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> > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> > > I have installed the "wmf" block to my ISA 2004 clients but
> > I not sure
> >
> > > how to set this up for ISA 2000.
> > > Could someone provide advice of the best way to do this.
> >
> > Did anyone ever post an answer? I'm curious about this "wmf block".
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> > Brian
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