RE: WMF Vunrability

Hi Tim,

I agree. There seems to be than the ususal amount of FUD associated with
this problem. :(

Tom

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:01 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: WMF Vunrability
> 
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> I wouldn't call it "program like behavior."  They just 
> contain both metadata 
> and rendering data in the same file (as I understand it.)
> 
> Renaming the file to something like ".gif" or ".jpg" could 
> still cause 
> execution if loaded from a file, but only if the Picture and 
> Fax Viewer was 
> the default program for those file types.  From a browser, 
> for WP&FV to open 
> it and parse the data, it has to be that MIME type (again, as 
> I understand 
> it.)
> 
> While I've read here that the "way to do it" is how GFI does 
> it, I've still 
> not seen any information on why simple content filtering 
> won't work.  But 
> then again, I read where Jim is working with MSRC to come up with a 
> "workable" filter.  It would be nice to get some 
> authoritative, detailed 
> information on why MIME and file type filtering *won't* work.
> 
> t
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:31 AM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: WMF Vunrability
> 
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> Hi Tim,
> 
> Don't know about that, but it's a good question. But I have to wonder
> about other apps that  open the WMF files. FWIU, WMF files have some
> program like behavior that allow it to call other programs if 
> something
> doesn't work.
> 
> How's that as a erudite description for a process? :)
> 
> Tom
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 12:13 PM
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> > Subject: [isalist] RE: WMF Vunrability
> >
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> > But if he sets a differnt mime type, Fax Viewer won't open
> > the program,
> > right?
> >
> > t
> > -----
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> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:32 AM
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: WMF Vunrability
> >
> >
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> >
> > Hi Jonathon,
> >
> > That won't work, because the scumbag can use any file name he wants.
> > Same goes with the MIME type. The MIME type is set at the Web
> > server, so
> > the scumbag can associate any MIME type he wants.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jonathon J. Howey [mailto:Jonathon@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:25 AM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: WMF Vunrability
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > What I did to block it was:
> > >
> > > Internet Access Policy -> Protocols tab -> Filtering ->
> > Configure HTTP
> > > -> Extensions tab.  Should be self explanatory from there.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jonathon J. Howey
> > > KPSA Compliance Management Inc.
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> > > Guiding the Future of Transportation
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> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: January 4, 2006 10:12 AM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: WMF Vunrability
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> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > He never stated what his "block" was.
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brian Boyes [mailto:BrianB@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 09:02
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> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: WMF Vunrability
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> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > > I have installed the "wmf" block to my ISA 2004 clients but
> > > I not sure
> > >
> > > > how to set this up for ISA 2000.
> > > > Could someone provide advice of the best way to do this.
> > >
> > > Did anyone ever post an answer? I'm curious about this 
> "wmf block".
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> > > Brian
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