192.168.2.1 is my home network. I am VPN'd into 10.1.2.x (work network). Where would I add a reverse lookup zone? That is a netgear router subnet... -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:02 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources http://www.ISAserver.org Oh yea, that one :) I take it for granted that a reverse lookup zone is always created *before* the forward lookup zone. That's the last time I take this for granite! Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:52 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources http://www.ISAserver.org It's pretty simple, really: "*** Can't find server name for address 192.168.2.1: Non-existent domain" == no rev-lookup zone in DNS for the 192.168.2 subnet. Add a rev-lookup zone to that DNS server and that message will stop. -----Original Message----- From: Bryan D. Andrews [mailto:bandrews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 6:46 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources http://www.ISAserver.org I had my hopes up for a sec. I reordered the bindings as per the article and even made sure that I am using the remote gateway (because I could not tell if they were saying this fix allows you to use your own gateway or that you will never be able to use your own gateway and internal DNS), rebooted and I still get nothing.... C:\Documents and Settings\bandrews>nslookup tatl0wbandrews9 *** Can't find server name for address 192.168.2.1: Non-existent domain *** Default servers are not available Server: UnKnown Address: 192.168.2.1 Name: tatl0wbandrews9.trendinfluence.com It does append my domain name, but it looks like its still choking on my local gateway (not really sure what this cryptic message means). Was I supposed to delete the other binding or just make sure its at the bottom? I just reordered it to the bottom... -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:33 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Bryan, This should help: http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?id=311218 Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Bryan D. Andrews [mailto:bandrews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 7:22 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources http://www.ISAserver.org Are there anymore ideas on this? My VPN will not resolve any internal DNS it seems... Host files for everyone! -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 5:33 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Bryan, What I found is that the VPN client uses the VPN server assigned DNS server address first. So, whatever the Internal network DNS server provides to the VPN client, the VPN client uses. However, that is not what I've experienced since upgrading to XP SP2 on a non-clean machine. I'll need to load NetMon and see what's going on with that box. Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Get the book! Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Bryan D. Andrews [mailto:bandrews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:17 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources http://www.ISAserver.org Thanks Tom for checking this out. I will send over any details I can if you need another config. You haven't had any dns changes lately have you? Did you see my comments about my dns changes: "Would it be possible that it checks externally each request first then checks vpn dns?" We recently added a wildcard externally and I am hoping that has not caused our specific issue. I could take it down to test but if this is not how things are supposed to work I'd rather not... -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:47 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources http://www.ISAserver.org Hey guys, I tested this in a "clean room" environment with XP SP2. Sorry to say that it works fine. The VPN client's preferred DNS server is set to the VPN server assigned DNS server. So, the next step is to figure out what's wrong with my production setup and what there isn't a change over, and what the difference is between my "clean room" setup and my production setup. HTH, Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Get the book! Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 10:37 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Bryan, Well, I tested on a SP1 XP machine and everything works the way it should. The VPN server assigns the VPN client a new DNS and WINS server address, and the VPN client uses that information preferentially. So no problem there. Now I need to confirm with a XP SP2 client to replicate what I'm seeing in my production network. Conclusions so far: XP SP1 no problems. ISA 2004 VPN provides Internal addresses for name servers and the VPN client uses them. It works great. Stay tuned for SP2 HTH, Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Get the book! Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Bryan D. Andrews [mailto:bandrews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 6:53 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources http://www.ISAserver.org Any last comments before we start creating a permanent workaround? Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Bryan D. Andrews Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 7:10 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources http://www.ISAserver.org We do not use Wins, nor do we configure the LMHost file. Just to keep it simple (for simple minds like me), it was mentioned that the DNS server on the VPN connection is normally used. Is it possible that the main interface dns servers were always queried first, then the vpn DNS (if the main dns did not return records)? I ask this because we added a wildcard external dns record (but we were under the impression that it should not affect us internally because we do resolution with our internal dns servers). We have not updated to XPsp2 yet but we are up to date on all preSP2 updates. Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Thor [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 2:01 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources http://www.ISAserver.org Before I compose my pedantic response, I have to acknowledge the fact that you said "connectoid." Only a bad ass such as yourself can get away with any -oid reference on a Sunday night. I'm just you did not combine it with "kernel mode data pump," or I may have wet myself. Regarding the default NBT name lookup methods in Win2k, it is actually different. Obviously the nbt cache is first- not withstanding that, if the DHCP server did not set a node type for the client, or no WINS server is explicitly set at the client, then b-node, or the broadcast method will be used first, and then the lmhosts file lookup. If a WINS server is configured by DHCP without specifically setting the node type, or if the client has a WINS server set, the h-node will be used by default. h-node will first directly query the WINS server, and then perform a broadcast if necessary. The lmhosts file will be used after that. These can be changed by registry setting at the client, which will set the default regardless of any other default node type assignment, and even overrides any DHCP node type assignment. This would be required if you have no DHCP server node assignment, and you wish for the client to use m-node (broadcast then WINS query) or p-node (WINS server only). But of course, nbt name resolution sucks anyway. t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 6:58 PM Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal resources > http://www.ISAserver.org > > What you have to remember is that since W2K, all 'normal' name resolution > is handled thus: > > if complex name, hand to DNS lookup > local cache > hosts file > DNS server list (using domain name devolution) > > if simple name or DNS lookup fails > local NB name cache > lmhosts file > WINS server (if configured) > WINS broadcast > > Thus, it isn't "always" anything in particular, but it depends on the > current configuration and especially in the case of VPN > connections, whether or not "use default gateway on remote network" is set > in the connectoid. > If a DNS or WINS server is in the "local" net, then the client will use it > if necessary (part of the DNS or WINS server list). > > Jim Harrison > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > http://isatools.org > Read the help / books / articles! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefaan Pouseele" <stefaan.pouseele@xxxxxxx> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 14:30 > Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal > resources > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Hey guys, > > I use daily a PPTP EAP-TLS connection to the office and have not > experienced > that problem so far. The ISA 2000 SP2 is running on a fully patched > Windows > 2000 SP4 and the client is a Windows XP SP2. However, with the help of > Ethereal I've seen that occasionally the ISP DNS servers are tried instead > of the VPN assigned DNS servers, although without adverse effect. > > HTH, > Stefaan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan D. Andrews [mailto:bandrews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: zondag 19 september 2004 23:06 > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal > resources > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > So yeah that is what I have done as well. > > Correct me if I am wrong - I always thought that when you are connected to > vpn, that internal requests (same domain suffix) always went through your > local dns. Is it all requests or just local domain requests, or does it > actually try first on your ISP then if the DNS is not there it attempts > local resolution through your VPN dns servers? > > I ask because we did make some external DNS changes that has a wildcard > entry sending all others to a specific address... but I was under the > impression that VPN users used our internal DNS. > > If the way it works is that it checks primary dns first then your VPN dns > servers then this might be the source of our problem... > > Thanks. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:33 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: VPN Users having Issues connecting to internal > resources > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Hi Bryan, > > Normally this is not the case. However, I too have been plagued with this > problem since upgrading to SP2. 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