Hi Tim, Even more interesting when public addresses are used on the Internal network ;-) Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder ISA 2004 Beta - Get it now! http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/beta/default.asp ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp -----Original Message----- From: Thor [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 2:17 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VOIP phone http://www.ISAserver.org That is interesting, actually... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:07 PM Subject: [isalist] RE: VOIP phone http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Jim, There's always the option in ISA Server 2004 to create a route relationship between Internal and External and then allow all IP traffic from External to Internal. I think that would be a popular config in certain circles ;-) Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder ISA 2004 Beta - Get it now! http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/beta/default.asp ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 2:01 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VOIP phone http://www.ISAserver.org Actually, it becomes simpler in ISA 2004 because a single protocol can include multiple primary connections. This is one thing that made the virus scripts easier to write for ISA 2004. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison http://isatools.org Read the help, books and articles! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Administrator" <Administrator@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:25 Subject: [isalist] RE: VOIP phone http://www.ISAserver.org Is that it :-) Had an empty schedule for 2004 ...you just filled it till Xmas Eve :) William -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 24 June 2004 20:12 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VOIP phone http://www.ISAserver.org You can't. - You'd have to create protocol definitions for all of the outbound primary connections - You'd have to create a protocol rule that allows all of the protocols you just defined - You'd have to create protocol definitions for all of the inbound primary connections - You'd have to server-publish each of the inbound definitions individually Had enough yet? :-) Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison http://isatools.org Read the help, books and articles! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Administrator" <Administrator@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:55 Subject: [isalist] RE: VOIP phone http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Ok....so if I play the dangerous game.....how do I open all TCP and all UDP In and OUT? Is this possible? William ________________________________ From: Ray Dzek [mailto:rdzek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 24 June 2004 19:46 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: VOIP phone http://www.ISAserver.org If you figure this out you would be ahead of just about everybody. VOIP does not play nice with ISA, or just about any other firewall for that matter. You usually have to revert to hanging your VOIP phones out on in a DMZ with a real internet IP address. Ray Dzek Network Operations Supervisor Specialized Bicycle Components PH: 408-782-5420 FX: 408-782-5421 -----Original Message----- From: Administrator [mailto:Administrator@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:17 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] VOIP phone http://www.ISAserver.org Hi I have a VOIP phone on my internal network. It has a fixed IP It seems that from one phone to another and Service provider to another different ports are needed Can anyone tell me how to open ALL port to the IP of this phone or of some way to find the ports I need. 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