Hello all, File sharing programs. I don't like all the hidden things that they could install on your system. There are so many out there now. Bear shear, Limewire, and of course the daddy of them all napster. Not only do they buildup lots of log file data improperly configured installing of these products open up the users system to potential abuse. For example if the system was setup at a root directory c:\ all the documents in the root directory could be available for searching. And, If I searched on *.doc or *.xls those files do appear for download. Now what happens if I get your credit card information or bank statements? The first thing I guess would be user education. But, it is the kids that usually load that software and parents don't have a clue. It's not necessarily the ports that I would worry about but more the key strokes logged and what files were downloaded. Some of the new installation programs install spy ware on the computers in use and transmit that back to a host system. Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W. Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 11:55 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Using applications on server http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Jim, I can't say enough about how much I hate file sharing programs :-() Our son came over to stay for a few days and decided that he wanted to use Kaaza and Morpheus. Our Firewall and packet filter logs for our SOHO usually run about 4-5 MBs/day. I opened things up a bit so that he could use Kaaza and Morpheus, and our firewall and packet filter logs for each of those days were over 40 MB!!! That was just one user. Can you imagine if you had a network of users using that cr*p? It boggles the mind. Thanks for listening :-) Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 1:33 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Using applications on server http://www.ISAserver.org The first rule of firewalls is: Don't use them for anything else If you can place your file sharing app inside the firewall, you'll be much happier and safer. Applications running on the ISA need packet filters to access the Internet (unless they understand proxy settings). Protocol rules allow internal hosts to get out, but don't have any bearing on apps running on the ISA itself. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/authors/harrison/ Read the books! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Duthie" <duthie.paul.j@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:50 PM Subject: [isalist] Using applications on server http://www.ISAserver.org Hello Folks, I'm wanting to run some file sharing apps on my ISA server (which is connected to a cable modem) so that I can use my computer for other things. However, none of them seem to be able to connect through the firewall when they can connect through the firewall from the workstations. Any ideas ? -- Best regards, Paul Duthie duthie.paul.j@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Network Manager, Ballarat High School www.ballaraths.vic.edu.au Sent Using The Bat! Version 1.54 Beta/45 ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: cismic@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')