RE: Something ISA Server can't fix

  • From: "Jeffrey M. Butte" <jbutte@xxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:34:08 -0500

We have Ameritech.... if they could charge prices like that, they would
probably not be regulularly in from of the Illinois Commerce Commission.
They recently got a penalty levied on them that requires them to pay
businesses for expensed due to insanely excessive down time.

-----Original Message-----
From: Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 9:31 AM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix


http://www.ISAserver.org


No doubt... The local loop to my house in Tahoe is way more than that on
its
own!  Provisioning is an add on!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Dellanno" <david@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 7:20 AM
Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix


> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> 395/mo that's a steal....Full T1?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas W. Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 10:18 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> I you ever get desparate, T1 is only 395/mo in Dallas. Still
expensive,
> but if you are running a business, its a justifiable write off.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tom
> www.isaserver.org/shinder
>
>
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey M. Butte [mailto:jbutte@xxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 8:29 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> I do small business consulting on the side and find this to be quite
> common.  I had even ordered business DSL for my home and found they
> botched the installation and put in residential.  Their response
was...
> well it works so lets leave it alone.  Now with the advent of Code
Red,
> they are blocking ICMP, TCP Ports 21, 23, 25, and 80.  They have plans
> to start blocking more (per tech support).  My request for a new
router
> config for business is now going on 3 weeks of "we will get back to
you
> shortly".  Also now since they no longer bridge business accounts, I
> will have to pay for 4 IP addresses for the router so I can get one
> static.  If I did not originally have a business contract at a fixed
> price, their new price would have cost me 4 times the residential.
>
> Now with Covad, Rythms and NorthPoint either out of business or going
> that way... I am busy with customer notifications of "Due to the
chapter
> 11 of <fillintheblank> your service will be discontinued on
> <fillinsomedate>"
>
> Check out a good article at
> http://www.emarketer.com/analysis/broadband/20010417_bband.html
>
> - Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JB Fields [mailto:jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:25 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> Yes, exactly.  And so what if my family wants to look at vacation
> pictures?
> I sure wish I knew who to talk to among the people who regulate the
> phone
> companies.
>
> JB Fields, A+, MCP+I, MCSE, MCT, CTT
> jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Washington, DC
>
>
>
> From: "Musser, Dale" <musser@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fixDate: Fri, 31 Aug
> 2001 07:14:07 -0400
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> I am with you!!!
> Our cable provider blocks port 80 also even for business accounts.
> We have a sbs2000 server and are having a constant battle.  So far the
> provider will not open it.
> We tried to explain we dont want to web host but do want to get to
> outlook web and they will not hear of it.
>
> dm
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:35 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> I've got a facility in Baltimore, and we use Atlantech DSL (I see you
> are in
> DC, maybe they service you)... The startup costs were a bit high, but
> the
> service is excellent.  The monthly is pretty cheap to- I think it is
> something like $130 for SDSL 720k or something.  You should check them
> out
> on DSLReports.com
>
> The circuit rocks too- I'm consistently under 70ms; good enough to run
> voice
> over IP.
> AD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JB Fields" <jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 8:14 PM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
>
>
>  > http://www.ISAserver.org
>  >
>  >
>  > A part of me figures this has to make sense with stuff like Code
Red
> running
>  > around, but yes!  I don't want to ask about the price of a business
> account!
>  >
>  > JB Fields, A+, MCP+I, MCSE, MCT, CTT
>  > jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx
>  > Washington, DC
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > From: "Thomas W. Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > Reply-To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
>  > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:55:52 -0500
>  >
>  > http://www.ISAserver.org
>  >
>  >
>  > Hi JB,
>  >
>  > I suspect the large ISPs will all be moving to this model where
they
>  > don't allow any unsolicited inbound to user subnets. The only way
> you'll
>  > be able to publish servers is by getting a "business" account.
>  >
>  > The Internet just isn't as much fun as it used to be :-(
>  >
>  > Tom
>  > www.isaserver.org/shinder
>  >
>  >
>  > Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: JB Fields [mailto:jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>  > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:52 PM
>  > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>  > Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
>  >
>  >
>  > http://www.ISAserver.org
>  >
>  >
>  > Yep, I've been robbed.  Port 12345 doesn't work, either.
>  >
>  > I'll turn off the DSL and move to a place that has cable modems.
> Wanna
>  > bet
>  > that I don't do much business with Verizon in the future?
>  >
>  > JB Fields, A+, MCP+I, MCSE, MCT, CTT
>  > jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx
>  > Washington, DC
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > From: "Thomas W. Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > Reply-To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
>  > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:34:23 -0500
>  >
>  > http://www.ISAserver.org
>  >
>  >
>  > Hi JB,
>  >
>  > That's pretty scary. If they've blocked PING and 80, maybe they are
>  > using dynamic packet filting so that only response ports are
> available
>  > to their networks. That mean no unsolicited INCOMING packets.
>  >
>  > OUCH!
>  >
>  > Try this: Turn off packet filtering, and then change the WWW
service
>  > port to 81 or 101 or something like that. Then see if you can
browse
> the
>  > web site on the ISA Server itself.
>  >
>  > HTH,
>  > Tom
>  > www.isaserver.org/shinder
>  >
>  >
>  > Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: JB Fields [mailto:jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>  > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:32 PM
>  > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>  > Cc: support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  > Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
>  >
>  >
>  > http://www.ISAserver.org
>  >
>  >
>  > Neither works.  You can't get to www.jbfields3.com because Verizon
>  > "capped"
>  > port 80, as the technical support person said it.
>  >
>  > JB Fields, A+, MCP+I, MCSE, MCT, CTT
>  > jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx
>  > Washington, DC
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > From: "Sandy. Ryan" <sryan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > Reply-To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > Subject: [isalist] RE: Something ISA Server can't fix
>  > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:29:04 -0600
>  >
>  > http://www.ISAserver.org
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>  > Surprisingly enough - its the Ip address.
>  > I had a similar problem - ended up calling Microsoft - the
> configuration
>  > was fine --
>  > it was the silly IP --- you MUST use a FQDN to make ISA work - if
not
>  > you are hosed.
>  > Sandy
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: JB Fields
>  > Sent: Thu 8/30/2001 8:24 PM
>  > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>  > Cc:
>  > Subject: [isalist] Something ISA Server can't fix
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > http://www.ISAserver.org
>  >
>  >
>  > I've been very embarrassed, over the last few weeks, that I
>  > could not get my
>  > web publishing to work on my home site.  As we were in the
>  > middle of the
>  > Code Red stuff, I was pretty philosophical about it.  Tonight, I
>  > got down to
>  > business and went through everything with a fine tooth comb.
>  > Things didn't
>  > get better.
>  >
>  > I went to www.isaserver.org and went through the documents on
>  > web publishing
>  > a step at a time.  No help.
>  >
>  > DNS wasn't an issue because I was doing the http://ip_address
>  > approach.
>  >
>  > Finally, something told me to ping my address from the
>  > Internet... nothing!
>  > It turns out that Verizon has curtailed our ability to access
>  > our servers
>  > attached to their DSL lines.  I can get to the Internet, but
>  > people on the
>  > Internet can no longer get to me.
>  >
>  > JB Fields, A+, MCP+I, MCSE, MCT, CTT
>  > jbfields3@xxxxxxxxxxx
>  > Washington, DC
>  >
>  >
>  >
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