Hey Jim I checked the nic bindings and they are set as internal - external - RRAS. I do not have any extra subnets in the routes, but I do have one question. Are there supposedto be NAT entries under the interfaces. As far as I can see I do not have any NAT protocols installed, but when I right-click on an int. in RRAS and check the NAT there is an entry, is this normal, and if not how do I get rid of it. Thanks Mike