RE: Routing Table Question
- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:06:42 -0600
Yep ;-P
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**Who is John Galt?**
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:59 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
>
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> So just change "installed" to "enabled and configured." Is
> that all you
> have to contribute to the conversation?? :-p
>
> -----
> "I'll see your Llama and up you a Badger."
> John T
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:03 AM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
>
>
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> Correction:
>
> RRAS is always installed. Whether its enabled and configured
> is the real
> issue.
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> **Who is John Galt?**
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:20 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> >
> > Of course- that's its purpose...
> >
> > 2 caveats, though. One, if RRAS is installed on the box
> > before you install
> > ISA, and you have a static route to other networks in RRAS,
> > ISA won't take
> > that network and automatically add it to its list of IP's for
> > the internal
> > network. It will, however, take a system route added with
> > "route add" and
> > add the destination network to it's Internal list. My guess
> > is that you
> > wrote it like that on purpose as the stack is more
> > authoritative for "local"
> > traffic.
> >
> > Two, while I agree that in normal RRAS situations you should
> > use the RRAS
> > interface to manage your routing, when it comes to RRAS on
> > ISA, ISA should
> > *not* have to depend upon the RRAS service for it's own
> > routing needs.
> > Remote Access might go down, but internal routing to other
> > subnets will
> > continue to work properly if the routes are added directly to
> > the system
> > rather than RRAS.
> >
> > t
> >
> > -----
> > "I'll see your Llama and up you a Badger."
> > John T
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:55 PM
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > I misspoke..
> >
> > RRAS can carry routes that do not appear in the system
> routing table.
> > ISA doesn't care where the routes are; it "merges" them.
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > Jim Harrison
> > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> > http://isatools.org
> > Read the help / books / articles!
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 13:37
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > RRAS doesn't write to the system routes - just its "own"
> > routes. If I
> > create a static route with "route -p add" RRAS will see it
> > and use it, but
> > RRAS cannot delete it.
> >
> > When it comes to ISA routes (for ISA itself, as in a complex
> > network), I
> > *always* use system routes and not RRAS. I assume this is
> one of the
> > excpetions you note, yes?
> >
> > -----
> > "I'll see your Llama and up you a Badger."
> > John T
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:29 PM
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Actually it reads and writes.
> > As a rule of thumb; you want to populate your routes using
> RRAS if its
> > installed.
> > There are exceptions to this, but they're few and far between...
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > Jim Harrison
> > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> > http://isatools.org
> > Read the help / books / articles!
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:57
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Doesn't RRAS read the Windows table? Not that it matters
> > because there's no
> > RRAS on the server I as working on.
> >
> > Amy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alexandre Gauthier [mailto:gauthiera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:00 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > I was under the impression that it was actually up up down
> > down left right
> > left right a b start. (And ooga booga.)
> >
> > Just remember that if you have RRAS installed you get *two*
> > routing tables.
> > The RRAS db and the one you get from cmd.exe (route print).
> >
> > I don't know if this helps, but I just helped someone
> > yesterday by saying
> > that.
> >
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Envoyé : 20 janvier 2006 13:18
> > À : [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Objet : [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Na, it's send quick email to ISA list, clear and recheck
> > event log for the
> > absence of annoyance, (say ooga, booga if you want to), check
> > email, done.
> >
> > Amy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John T (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:06 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > No, it is jump up and down and twist side to side saying ooga
> > booga 3 times.
> >
> > John T
> > eServices For You
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:56 AM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > Rotate 3 times and say wagga wagga wagga...:))
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:42 PM
> > > To: ISA Mailing List
> > > Subject: [isalist] Routing Table Question
> > > Importance: High
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > When I make a change to the Windows routing table do I have to do
> > > anything for it to take effect?
> > >
> > > Amy
> > >
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