So just change "installed" to "enabled and configured." Is that all you
have to contribute to the conversation?? :-p
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Correction:
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-----Original Message----- From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:20 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
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Of course- that's its purpose...
2 caveats, though. One, if RRAS is installed on the box before you install ISA, and you have a static route to other networks in RRAS, ISA won't take that network and automatically add it to its list of IP's for the internal network. It will, however, take a system route added with "route add" and add the destination network to it's Internal list. My guess is that you wrote it like that on purpose as the stack is more authoritative for "local" traffic.
Two, while I agree that in normal RRAS situations you should use the RRAS interface to manage your routing, when it comes to RRAS on ISA, ISA should *not* have to depend upon the RRAS service for it's own routing needs. Remote Access might go down, but internal routing to other subnets will continue to work properly if the routes are added directly to the system rather than RRAS.
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I misspoke..
RRAS can carry routes that do not appear in the system routing table. ISA doesn't care where the routes are; it "merges" them.
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-----Original Message----- From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 13:37 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
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RRAS doesn't write to the system routes - just its "own" routes. If I create a static route with "route -p add" RRAS will see it and use it, but RRAS cannot delete it.
When it comes to ISA routes (for ISA itself, as in a complex network), I *always* use system routes and not RRAS. I assume this is one of the excpetions you note, yes?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:29 PM Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
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Actually it reads and writes. As a rule of thumb; you want to populate your routes using RRAS if its installed. There are exceptions to this, but they're few and far between...
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-----Original Message----- From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:57 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
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Doesn't RRAS read the Windows table? Not that it matters because there's no RRAS on the server I as working on.
Amy
-----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Gauthier [mailto:gauthiera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:00 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
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I was under the impression that it was actually up up down down left right left right a b start. (And ooga booga.)
Just remember that if you have RRAS installed you get *two* routing tables. The RRAS db and the one you get from cmd.exe (route print).
I don't know if this helps, but I just helped someone yesterday by saying that.
-----Message d'origine----- De : Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Envoyé : 20 janvier 2006 13:18 À : [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Objet : [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
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Na, it's send quick email to ISA list, clear and recheck event log for the absence of annoyance, (say ooga, booga if you want to), check email, done.
Amy
-----Original Message----- From: John T (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:06 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
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No, it is jump up and down and twist side to side saying ooga booga 3 times.
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