RE: Routing Table Question

  • From: "Thor \(Hammer of God\)" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:59:20 -0800

So just change "installed" to "enabled and configured." Is that all you have to contribute to the conversation?? :-p

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Correction:

RRAS is always installed. Whether its enabled and configured is the real issue.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:20 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question

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Of course- that's its purpose...

2 caveats, though.  One, if RRAS is installed on the box
before you install
ISA, and you have a static route to other networks in RRAS,
ISA won't take
that network and automatically add it to its list of IP's for
the internal
network.  It will, however, take a system route added with
"route add" and
add the destination network to it's Internal list.  My guess
is that you
wrote it like that on purpose as the stack is more
authoritative for "local"
traffic.

Two, while I agree that in normal RRAS situations you should
use the RRAS
interface to manage your routing, when it comes to RRAS on
ISA, ISA should
*not* have to depend upon the RRAS service for it's own
routing needs.
Remote Access might go down, but internal routing to other
subnets will
continue to work properly if the routes are added directly to
the system
rather than RRAS.

t

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:55 PM
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I misspoke..

RRAS can carry routes that do not appear in the system routing table.
ISA doesn't care where the routes are; it "merges" them.

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-----Original Message----- From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 13:37 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question

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RRAS doesn't write to the system routes - just its "own"
routes.  If I
create a static route with "route -p add" RRAS will see it
and use it, but
RRAS cannot delete it.

When it comes to ISA routes (for ISA itself, as in a complex
network), I
*always* use system routes and not RRAS.  I assume this is one of the
excpetions you note, yes?

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:29 PM
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Actually it reads and writes.
As a rule of thumb; you want to populate your routes using RRAS if its
installed.
There are exceptions to this, but they're few and far between...

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-----Original Message----- From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:57 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question

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Doesn't RRAS read the Windows table? Not that it matters
because there's no
RRAS on the server I as working on.

Amy




-----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Gauthier [mailto:gauthiera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:00 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question

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I was under the impression that it was actually up up down
down left right
left right a b start. (And ooga booga.)

Just remember that if you have RRAS installed you get *two*
routing tables.
The RRAS db and the one you get from cmd.exe (route print).

I don't know if this helps, but I just helped someone
yesterday by saying
that.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Envoyé : 20 janvier 2006 13:18
À : [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Objet : [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question

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Na, it's send quick email to ISA list, clear and recheck
event log for the
absence of annoyance, (say ooga, booga if you want to), check
email, done.

Amy




-----Original Message----- From: John T (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:06 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question

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No, it is jump up and down and twist side to side saying ooga
booga 3 times.

John T
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:56 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Rotate 3 times and say wagga wagga wagga...:)) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:42 PM > To: ISA Mailing List > Subject: [isalist] Routing Table Question > Importance: High > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > When I make a change to the Windows routing table do I have to do > anything for it to take effect? > > Amy > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp > ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > ------------------------------------------------------ > Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites: > http://www.techgenix.com > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: > isalist@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit > http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ------------------------------------------------------ > List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp > ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > ------------------------------------------------------ > Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites: > http://www.techgenix.com > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: > johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


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