RE: Routing Table Question
- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:03:36 -0600
Correction:
RRAS is always installed. Whether its enabled and configured is the real issue.
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:20 PM
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> Of course- that's its purpose...
>
> 2 caveats, though. One, if RRAS is installed on the box
> before you install
> ISA, and you have a static route to other networks in RRAS,
> ISA won't take
> that network and automatically add it to its list of IP's for
> the internal
> network. It will, however, take a system route added with
> "route add" and
> add the destination network to it's Internal list. My guess
> is that you
> wrote it like that on purpose as the stack is more
> authoritative for "local"
> traffic.
>
> Two, while I agree that in normal RRAS situations you should
> use the RRAS
> interface to manage your routing, when it comes to RRAS on
> ISA, ISA should
> *not* have to depend upon the RRAS service for it's own
> routing needs.
> Remote Access might go down, but internal routing to other
> subnets will
> continue to work properly if the routes are added directly to
> the system
> rather than RRAS.
>
> t
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:55 PM
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> I misspoke..
>
> RRAS can carry routes that do not appear in the system routing table.
> ISA doesn't care where the routes are; it "merges" them.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 13:37
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> RRAS doesn't write to the system routes - just its "own"
> routes. If I
> create a static route with "route -p add" RRAS will see it
> and use it, but
> RRAS cannot delete it.
>
> When it comes to ISA routes (for ISA itself, as in a complex
> network), I
> *always* use system routes and not RRAS. I assume this is one of the
> excpetions you note, yes?
>
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> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:29 PM
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> Actually it reads and writes.
> As a rule of thumb; you want to populate your routes using RRAS if its
> installed.
> There are exceptions to this, but they're few and far between...
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:57
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> Doesn't RRAS read the Windows table? Not that it matters
> because there's no
> RRAS on the server I as working on.
>
> Amy
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>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexandre Gauthier [mailto:gauthiera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
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> I was under the impression that it was actually up up down
> down left right
> left right a b start. (And ooga booga.)
>
> Just remember that if you have RRAS installed you get *two*
> routing tables.
> The RRAS db and the one you get from cmd.exe (route print).
>
> I don't know if this helps, but I just helped someone
> yesterday by saying
> that.
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Envoyé : 20 janvier 2006 13:18
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> Na, it's send quick email to ISA list, clear and recheck
> event log for the
> absence of annoyance, (say ooga, booga if you want to), check
> email, done.
>
> Amy
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John T (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:06 PM
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> No, it is jump up and down and twist side to side saying ooga
> booga 3 times.
>
> John T
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> > From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:56 AM
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> > Rotate 3 times and say wagga wagga wagga...:))
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
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> > When I make a change to the Windows routing table do I have to do
> > anything for it to take effect?
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> > Amy
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