RE: Routing Table Question

Correction:

RRAS is always installed. Whether its enabled and configured is the real issue.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:20 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
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> 
> Of course- that's its purpose...
> 
> 2 caveats, though.  One, if RRAS is installed on the box 
> before you install 
> ISA, and you have a static route to other networks in RRAS, 
> ISA won't take 
> that network and automatically add it to its list of IP's for 
> the internal 
> network.  It will, however, take a system route added with 
> "route add" and 
> add the destination network to it's Internal list.  My guess 
> is that you 
> wrote it like that on purpose as the stack is more 
> authoritative for "local" 
> traffic.
> 
> Two, while I agree that in normal RRAS situations you should 
> use the RRAS 
> interface to manage your routing, when it comes to RRAS on 
> ISA, ISA should 
> *not* have to depend upon the RRAS service for it's own 
> routing needs. 
> Remote Access might go down, but internal routing to other 
> subnets will 
> continue to work properly if the routes are added directly to 
> the system 
> rather than RRAS.
> 
> t
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> -----
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> John T
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> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:55 PM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
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> I misspoke..
> 
> RRAS can carry routes that do not appear in the system routing table.
> ISA doesn't care where the routes are; it "merges" them.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 13:37
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
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> RRAS doesn't write to the system routes - just its "own" 
> routes.  If I 
> create a static route with "route -p add" RRAS will see it 
> and use it, but 
> RRAS cannot delete it.
> 
> When it comes to ISA routes (for ISA itself, as in a complex 
> network), I
> *always* use system routes and not RRAS.  I assume this is one of the 
> excpetions you note, yes?
> 
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> John T
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> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:29 PM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
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> Actually it reads and writes.
> As a rule of thumb; you want to populate your routes using RRAS if its
> installed.
> There are exceptions to this, but they're few and far between...
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:57
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
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> Doesn't RRAS read the Windows table? Not that it matters 
> because there's no
> RRAS on the server I as working on.
> 
> Amy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexandre Gauthier [mailto:gauthiera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:00 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
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> I was under the impression that it was actually up up down 
> down left right
> left right a b start. (And ooga booga.)
> 
> Just remember that if you have RRAS installed you get *two* 
> routing tables.
> The RRAS db and the one you get from cmd.exe (route print).
> 
> I don't know if this helps, but I just helped someone 
> yesterday by saying
> that.
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Envoyé : 20 janvier 2006 13:18
> À : [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Objet : [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
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> Na, it's send quick email to ISA list, clear and recheck 
> event log for the
> absence of annoyance, (say ooga, booga if you want to), check 
> email, done.
> 
> Amy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John T (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:06 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
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> No, it is jump up and down and twist side to side saying ooga 
> booga 3 times.
> 
> John T
> eServices For You
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:56 AM
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> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Routing Table Question
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> > Rotate 3 times and say wagga wagga wagga...:))
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:42 PM
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> > When I make a change to the Windows routing table do I have to do
> > anything for it to take effect?
> >
> > Amy
> >
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