Hi Joseph, Go with a second connection that is from a different provider. Usually the telco and the cable don't go down together (at least in my area), so have the DSL and cable back up each other is a great solution for high availability. HTH, Tom -----Original Message----- From: cismic [mailto:cismic@xxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 3:58 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: RainConnect http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Thomas, That really does sound like a great solution! I gave up my T1 last Aug since it was way to expensive. It was nice to have good support though. It never went offline for more then 5 minutes. Now I have cable 4up 4down with ISDN backup. I'm going to see about having another cable connection to the place or DSL. Things are getting more busy for me and it's always nice to find out about new options from KB folks like yourself on this list! Thank you, Joseph ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:31 PM Subject: [isalist] RE: RainConnect http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Joseph, For Web and Server Publishing, the remote client only uses one line, since as you pointed out, the client doesn't have a load balancer/aggregator in front of it and DNS only assigns one of the IP addresses that you've exposed to the Internet. However, external users are randomized to one connection or the other (if you have two, if you have 10 Internet connections, it'll randomize users to one of the ten external links). So, it does do a *lot* for Web and Server Publishing because the incoming connections are evenly balanced among all the Internet connections. Cool! :-) The source IP address is that of the link that services the outbound connection. Unless, of course, you use RainWall with RainConnect, then you get NLB too. With both RainWall and RainConnect, you have transparent fail over and fault tolerance for both your Internet connections AND ISA firewalls. Whoa. :) HTH, Tom Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder ISA 2004 Beta - Get it now! http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/beta/default.asp ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp -----Original Message----- From: cismic [mailto:cismic@xxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:31 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: RainConnect http://www.ISAserver.org I've also wondered that. Both, lines would have different IP address's. So, someone using 1 ip address to look at your webs would need to have the response sent back along the same path. I would think that rain connect works best for multihoming structure for surfing out bound. And what Ip address is sent to sites that you visit? The exteranl ISA ip address? Thank you, Joseph ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thor" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:24 AM Subject: [isalist] RE: RainConnect http://www.ISAserver.org Message> And when both lines are running, you get bandwidth aggregation for that you have 3Mbps down and 768 up RC doesn't actually bond the lines, does it?? Isn't it more like the old inverse multiplexed algorithm used to bundle lines together to provide a syntesized single pipe? 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