RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:02:53 -0600
I've got an acorn for you right here.
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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MVP -- ISA Firewalls
**Who is John Galt?**
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 8:51 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
>
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>
> The acorn didn't fall far from the tree on that one, huh??
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 6:38 PM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
>
>
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> Sounds like my daughter. I never knew anyone who could talk
> non-stop for
> three hours and not say anything I remember. :)
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> **Who is John Galt?**
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:58 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Oh; she is...
> > ..until she starts to tell a story.
> > It's a verbal roller coaster if ever there was one...
> > :-0
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > Jim Harrison
> > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> > http://isatools.org
> > Read the help / books / articles!
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 17:49
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > LOL! See, I was convinced that she was a very pleasant and
> > polite girl.
> > I'll get you back by enjoying her stories.
> >
> > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > **Who is John Galt?**
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:39 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > I'll just wait till you come back in Jan and make you listen to my
> > > daughter tell a story...
> > > ..it's painful...
> > > :-p
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > Jim Harrison
> > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> > > http://isatools.org
> > > Read the help / books / articles!
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 17:27
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > Hi Jeff,
> > >
> > > Ho boy.
> > >
> > > That is a very old article that I really need to update. It was
> > > written in the days when you couldn't find information on how to
> > > confiugre RPC/HTTP anywhere on the Microsoft site, except for some
> > > cr*p references from the Office team (who understand
> > networking like I
> > > understand hog farming).
> > >
> > > Anyhow, the client configuration section in that article
> is weak at
> > > best, incompetant at closer to the truth. If you look at
> > the log file
> > > entries, you'll see that the connection is made to the
> > EXCHANGE2003BE
> > > machine, which is the malibox server, not the FE machine. I
> > showed the
> > > name of the FE Exchange Server because that is how the
> > client accesses
> > > the RPC/HTTP proxy, which was kind enough to find the name
> > of the BE
> > > Exchange Server, but I didn't show that process.
> > >
> > > So, my bad. The name of the RPC proxy should be put in the proxy
> > > sections, and the mailbox server should be placed in the
> > SERVER NAME
> > > section of the client.
> > >
> > > Jim can now beat we a Mullen noodle.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > Site: www.isaserver.org
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> > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > > **Who is John Galt?**
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:01 PM
> > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > >
> > > > OK, since our favorite firewall has been exonerated, can I
> > > step into
> > > > OT land for a second and ask "would my likely suspect be
> > > the front end
> > > > exchange server?"
> > > >
> > > > I was going by this to configure outlook:
> > > > http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/outlookrpchttp.html
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:13 PM
> > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > >
> > > > ARRRGGG!
> > > >
> > > > I should have realized the fact that 99% of the time its
> > not an ISA
> > > > firewall problem!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the update.
> > > >
> > > > Jim wins again :)
> > > >
> > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > > > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> > > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:33 PM
> > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > >
> > > > > I got it working, but I'm not sure precisely why it
> > > wasn't working.
> > > > >
> > > > > I noticed that there was nothing in the FE IIS logs going
> > > to the BE
> > > > > server.
> > > > >
> > > > > In my Outlook profile I changed the mailbox server to the
> > > > name of the
> > > > > BE server on which my mailbox physically resides and
> it worked!
> > > > > Previously, I
> > > > > had the FE server listed. I thought the FE would be able
> > > > to look up
> > > > > where the mailbox really is and redirect me. Is this what
> > > > is supposed
> > > > > to happen?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:08 PM
> > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > >
> > > > > Nah - that's a 500 response from ISA.
> > > > > What does the IIS log contain for the "RPC_IN_DATA"
> connections?
> > > > >
> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Jim Harrison
> > > > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > > > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> > > > > http://isatools.org
> > > > > Read the help / books / articles!
> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 13:03
> > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > >
> > > > > My guess is that the To tab and the certs don't match up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > > > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > > > > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
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> > > > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > > > > **Who is John Galt?**
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 2:56 PM
> > > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That code is a WinError:
> > > > > > "The specified network name is no longer available"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This means the connection between the ISA and the
> > Exch has been
> > > > > > broken.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > Jim Harrison
> > > > > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > > > > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> > > > > > http://isatools.org
> > > > > > Read the help / books / articles!
> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:51
> > > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The ISA log has 64 for HTTP status code and 0xa03 for error
> > > > > > information.
> > > > > > there's just a "-" in the filter information field.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:33 PM
> > > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What's the code for the "failed" connection?
> > > > > > What's in the "Filter data" field for the failed connection?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > Jim Harrison
> > > > > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > > > > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> > > > > > http://isatools.org
> > > > > > Read the help / books / articles!
> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:27
> > > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm seeing 200's in the W3SVC1 logs on the Exchange front
> > > > > end server.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the ISA server logs I see two "initated connection"
> > > > > HTTPS entries
> > > > > > from ISA to FE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > These are immediately followed by the "allowed connection"
> > > > > > (RPC_OUT_DATA) and "failed connection" (RPC_IN_DATA)
> > > attempt log
> > > > > > entries from my "RPC over HTTP" rule.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Finally, two "Closed connection" entries for the HTTPS
> > > > connections.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then the whole thing repeats as it tries to connect again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm thinking something is still screwed up with my ISA
> > > > > configuration;
> > > > > > RPC over HTTP is working internally.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:44 AM
> > > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ..maybe - it depends on the error code.
> > > > > > If you're seeing "200", then it's coming from the
> Exch server.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > Jim Harrison
> > > > > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > > > > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> > > > > > http://isatools.org
> > > > > > Read the help / books / articles!
> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 07:50
> > > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > same rule; is the data in the error code information column
> > > > > on the ISA
> > > > > > logs the value it is getting back from rpcproxy.dll?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:15 PM
> > > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unless you see different rules quoted for each, now you're
> > > > > > troubleshooting Exchange...
> > > > > > ..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > Jim Harrison
> > > > > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > > > > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> > > > > > http://isatools.org
> > > > > > Read the help / books / articles!
> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 15:12
> > > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Jim, I knew 200 was a good thing, so hoped I was
> > > > making some
> > > > > > progress.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm running outlook with the rpcdiag switch on the client.
> > > > > > Upon launching, Outlook prompts me for credentials and
> > > I and see
> > > > > > status of "connecting" for the exchange proxy and the
> > > > > directory in the
> > > > > > server connection status dialog.
> > > > > > These disappear after a little while and I get the
> > > "your exchange
> > > > > > server is unavailable" dialog.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the proxy server logs, I'm seeing "Failed Connection
> > > > Attempt" on
> > > > > > the RPC_IN_DATA queries and "Allowed Connection"
> > > > > > on the RPC_OUT_DATA URL.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:39 PM
> > > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Er..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Result codes of "200" are success codes.
> > > > > > What exactly is the client experience?
> > > > > > Whjat do you find in the ISA logs for those recent tests?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > Jim Harrison
> > > > > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > > > > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> > > > > > http://isatools.org
> > > > > > Read the help / books / articles!
> > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 14:32
> > > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tom,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had it set for all users. I tried switching it to only
> > > > > > authenticated & forward basic authentication and did get
> > > > 200 result
> > > > > > codes in the front end server WWW logs, but it is
> > still failing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 4:50 PM
> > > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Jeff,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you forcing authentication at the ISA firewall, or
> > > > does the Web
> > > > > > Publishing Rule allow access to "all users"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > > > > Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/>
> > > > > > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> > > > > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> MVP
> > > > > > -- ISA Firewalls **Who is John Galt?**
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:42 PM
> > > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > > Subject: [isalist] RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have ISA 2004 sitting on the outside, with rules to
> > > > > allow RPC over
> > > > >
> > > > > > HTTP access to the Exchange FE server. I think this is all
> > > > > configured
> > > > > > OK.
> > > > > > RPC over HTTP is working OK internally. I also have OWA
> > > > > working using
> > > > > > a different listener (FBA).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whenever I try to make an external RPC
> > > connection it is failing.
> > > > > > I'm seeing my username shown in the ISA logs, but in the
> > > > > WWW logs for
> > > > > > the exchange proxy server I am seeing entries with
> > > > status 401.2 and
> > > > > > win32 error 2148074254, so I think something is wrong
> > > > with the user
> > > > > > authentication.
> > > > > > from the logs (with time/date and ip info removed):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RPC_IN_DATA /rpc/rpcproxy.dll
> > > > > > frontend.andassoc.com:6002 443 - xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx MSRPC 401 2
> > > > > > 2148074254
> > > > > > RPC_OUT_DATA /rpc/rpcproxy.dll
> > > > > > frontend.andassoc.com:6002 443 - xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx MSRPC 401 2
> > > > > > 2148074254
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have the RPC listener set to use basic authentication
> > > > > as well as
> > > > > > the exchange IIS rpc virtual directory. The RPC listener
> > > > > also has a
> > > > > > certificate bearing the FQDN of the exchange front
> end server.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any help appreciated. This might not be an ISA issue
> > > > > since I seem to
> > > > >
> > > > > > be reaching the internal Exchange proxy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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