RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes

  • From: "Greg Mulholland" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:45:22 +1100

Try listening to Steve every night  :) 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:39 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes

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I'll just wait till you come back in Jan and make you listen to my
daughter tell a story... 
..it's painful...
:-p

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-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 17:27
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes

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Hi Jeff,

Ho boy.

That is a very old article that I really need to update. It was written
in the days when you couldn't find information on how to confiugre
RPC/HTTP anywhere on the Microsoft site, except for some cr*p references
from the Office team (who understand networking like I understand hog
farming).

Anyhow, the client configuration section in that article is weak at
best, incompetant at closer to the truth. If you look at the log file
entries, you'll see that the connection is made to the EXCHANGE2003BE
machine, which is the malibox server, not the FE machine. I showed the
name of the FE Exchange Server because that is how the client accesses
the RPC/HTTP proxy, which was kind enough to find the name of the BE
Exchange Server, but I didn't show that process.

So, my bad. The name of the RPC proxy should be put in the proxy
sections, and the mailbox server should be placed in the SERVER NAME
section of the client.

Jim can now beat we a Mullen noodle.

HTH,
Tom

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:01 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> OK, since our favorite firewall has been exonerated, can I step into 
> OT land for a second and ask "would my likely suspect be the front end

> exchange server?"
> 
> I was going by this to configure outlook:
> http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/outlookrpchttp.html
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeff
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:13 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> ARRRGGG!
> 
> I should have realized the fact that 99% of the time its not an ISA 
> firewall problem!
> 
> Thanks for the update.
> 
> Jim wins again :)
> 
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:33 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > 
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > 
> > I got it working, but I'm not sure precisely why it wasn't working.
> > 
> > I noticed that there was nothing in the FE IIS logs going to the BE 
> > server.
> > 
> > In my Outlook profile I changed the mailbox server to the
> name of the
> > BE server on which my mailbox physically resides and it worked!
> > Previously, I
> > had the FE server listed.  I thought the FE would be able
> to look up
> > where the mailbox really is and redirect me.  Is this what
> is supposed
> > to happen?
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:08 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > 
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > 
> > Nah - that's a 500 response from ISA. 
> > What does the IIS log contain for the "RPC_IN_DATA" connections?
> > 
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >    Jim Harrison
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> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 13:03
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > 
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > 
> > My guess is that the To tab and the certs don't match up.
> > 
> > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> > 
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 2:56 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > 
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > 
> > > That code is a WinError:
> > > "The specified network name is no longer available" 
> > > 
> > > This means the connection between the ISA and the Exch has been 
> > > broken.
> > > 
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >    Jim Harrison
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> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:51
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > 
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > 
> > > The ISA log has 64 for HTTP status code and 0xa03 for error 
> > > information.
> > > there's just a "-" in the filter information field.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:33 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > 
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > 
> > > What's the code for the "failed" connection?
> > > What's in the "Filter data" field for the failed connection?
> > > 
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >    Jim Harrison
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> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:27
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > 
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > 
> > > I'm seeing 200's in the W3SVC1 logs on the Exchange front
> > end server. 
> > > 
> > > On the ISA server logs I see two "initated connection" 
> > HTTPS entries
> > > from ISA to FE.
> > > 
> > > These are immediately followed by the "allowed connection" 
> > > (RPC_OUT_DATA) and "failed connection" (RPC_IN_DATA) attempt log 
> > > entries from my "RPC over HTTP" rule.
> > > 
> > > Finally, two "Closed connection" entries for the HTTPS
> connections.
> > > 
> > > Then the whole thing repeats as it tries to connect again.
> > > 
> > > I'm thinking something is still screwed up with my ISA
> > configuration;
> > > RPC over HTTP is working internally.
> > > 
> > > Jeff
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:44 AM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > 
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > 
> > > ..maybe - it depends on the error code. 
> > > If you're seeing "200", then it's coming from the Exch server.
> > > 
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >    Jim Harrison
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> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 07:50
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > 
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > 
> > > same rule; is the data in the error code information column
> > on the ISA
> > > logs the value it is getting back from rpcproxy.dll?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:15 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > 
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > 
> > > Unless you see different rules quoted for each, now you're 
> > > troubleshooting Exchange...
> > > ..
> > > 
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >    Jim Harrison
> > >    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
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> > >  
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 15:12
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > 
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > 
> > > Thanks Jim, I knew 200 was a good thing, so hoped I was
> making some
> > > progress.
> > > 
> > > I'm running outlook with the rpcdiag switch on the client.  
> > > Upon launching, Outlook prompts me for credentials and I and see 
> > > status of "connecting" for the exchange proxy and the
> > directory in the
> > > server connection status dialog.
> > > These disappear after a little while and I get the "your exchange 
> > > server is unavailable" dialog.
> > > 
> > > On the proxy server logs, I'm seeing "Failed Connection
> Attempt" on
> > > the RPC_IN_DATA queries and "Allowed Connection"
> > > on the RPC_OUT_DATA URL.  
> > > 
> > > Jeff
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:39 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > 
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > 
> > > Er..
> > > 
> > > Result codes of "200" are success codes. 
> > > What exactly is the client experience?
> > > Whjat do you find in the ISA logs for those recent tests?
> > > 
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >    Jim Harrison
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> > >  
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 14:32
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > 
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > 
> > > Tom,
> > >  
> > > I had it set for all users.  I tried switching it to only 
> > > authenticated & forward basic authentication and did get
> 200 result
> > > codes in the front end server WWW logs, but it is still failing.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jeff
> > >  
> > > ________________________________
> > > 
> > > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 4:50 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > > 
> > > 
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > 
> > > Hi Jeff,
> > >  
> > > Are you forcing authentication at the ISA firewall, or
> does the Web
> > > Publishing Rule allow access to "all users"?
> > >  
> > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > > 
> > >   From: Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > >   Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:42 PM
> > >   To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > >   Subject: [isalist] RPC over HTTP authentication woes
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >   
> > > 
> > >   I have ISA 2004 sitting on the outside, with rules to
> > allow RPC over
> > 
> > > HTTP access to the Exchange FE server.  I think this is all
> > configured
> > > OK.
> > > RPC over HTTP is working OK internally.  I also have OWA
> > working using
> > > a different listener (FBA).
> > > 
> > >   Whenever I try to make an external RPC connection it is failing.
> > > I'm seeing my username shown in the ISA logs, but in the
> > WWW logs for
> > > the exchange proxy server  I am seeing entries with
> status 401.2 and
> > > win32 error 2148074254, so I think something is wrong
> with the user
> > > authentication.
> > > from the logs (with time/date and ip info removed):
> > > 
> > >   RPC_IN_DATA /rpc/rpcproxy.dll
> > > frontend.andassoc.com:6002 443 - xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx MSRPC 401 2
> > > 2148074254 
> > >   RPC_OUT_DATA /rpc/rpcproxy.dll
> > > frontend.andassoc.com:6002 443 - xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx MSRPC 401 2
> > > 2148074254
> > > 
> > >   I have the RPC listener set to use basic authentication
> > as well as
> > > the exchange IIS rpc virtual directory.  The RPC listener
> > also has a
> > > certificate bearing the FQDN of the exchange front end server.
> > > 
> > >   Any help appreciated. This might not be an ISA issue
> > since I seem to
> > 
> > > be reaching the internal Exchange proxy.
> > > 
> > >   Jeff
> > > 
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