RE: RES: Off topic: SBS Liscensing
- From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:15:37 -0800
Those had to have been "special cases".
The standard SBS EULA very clearly makes the point of never splitting up the
components; they're licensed together or not at all.
Jim Harrison
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Moffat" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:07
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Hi guys
Just to tag along at the end of this little thread, 2 of my clients when
I was back in the UK actually had it in writing from MS UK that the
component parts of SBS could be split between Servers, as long as there
was a separate w2k server licence purchased for each machine.
This was current as of last year around JAnuary.
Steve
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From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:13 PM
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Hi Amy,
It is blasphemy, but not enough to get you off the list ;-)
A back to back firewall configuration is great, and its better than
putting a fulled SBS'ed server on the edge. But you still end up in the
same place were you started: a server in the early stage of compromise
:-) However, its better than no protection at all.
But, like almost all things in life, you get what you pay for.
Thanks!
Tom
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-----Original Message-----
From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:25 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: RES: Off topic: SBS Liscensing
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Maybe this is blasphemy but what about using a nice little
Sonicwall firewall on the perimeter? It's not as configurable or full
featured but it would add the additional layer you are looking for and
it would be a lot less expensive. (please don't throw me off this list,
I'm learning a lot here)
Amy
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:47 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: RES: Off topic: SBS Liscensing
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Hi Amy,
While you can make ISA Server work on an "all purpose" server, I
could never justify such a configuration from a security point of view.
Putting an Exchange Server, SQL Server, FAX server, etc. on the firewall
is a bad security proposition, no matter how you cut it. There are also
other drawbacks, such as how logging is affected by publishing services
located on the ISA Server itself. The ISA Server is a firewall and
perimeter defensive device and should be treated like one. I wouldn't
install all these extraneous services on a PIX or CP/Nokia and I
wouldn't do it on an ISA Server.
What I'm trying to determine is the cost effectiveness of using
two Win2k servers and a separate installation of ISA Server. From what I
can tell so far, you can still profit from getting SBS to put on the
internal network to use as an Exchange, SQL, FAX, etc. server and get
separate licenses for Win2k and ISA Server to run on the perimeter. The
cost would be comparable to black box solutions, but you can easily
configure and integrate with the existing Microsoft network, and you
don't pay extra for VPN or "connectors" to connect to the user database.
Thanks!
Tom
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