RE: Question

  • From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:01:53 -0600

Students are different. They're little savages that don't care about anything 
expect their immediate wants. There's no way you can secure that network. They 
have no investment in your enterprise, and that's a prescriptoin for failure, 
or job security :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Fri 11/4/2005 2:06 PM
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You must be really lucky then!  I can lock down a workstation as much as
possible, and these students find a way to infect them with
spyware/viruses constantly.  Luckily, SAV real-time scanning catches
most of them, most all from web browsing (occasionally from home-made
CDs/floppies).  A few do manage to slip through, but are caught as soon
as the definitions update (we check for updates once an hour).

If your users are actively using the web, all I can say is that you've
been really-really-really lucky so far... That, or simply the fact that
they are much more professional in their computer use habits than the
few thousand kids I have to deal with trying to find ways around
SurfControl all day.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 2:51 PM
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I use GFI, Mail Essentials, Mail Security, ISA webminitor and NAV / SAV
Corporate at most of my clients.

I can honestly say that none of my clients networks has had a virus
infection in the 4 years I have been in Bermuda.

S

-----Original Message-----
From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 11:24 AM
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My Symantec Corporate Edition does the same thing, but I would
never-ever say it totally stops them.  

We had one run through our e-mail a couple of days ago, brand-new virus.
It took them about five hours to recognize it and update their
definitions (we update hourly), and then it was detected and
quarantined.  During that time, it could have infected several of our
workstations.  While five hours isn't unreasonable for a reaction time,
it still isn't good enough to protect completely.  

Any company that says they can keep you "totally" virus-free is smoking
something really good, run from them as fast as you can!

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 10:14 AM
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LOL.........

CA...Complete @$$holes 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Gauthier [mailto:gauthiera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 10:52 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Question

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>They claim to be able to keep client machines on the network virus
free?
>I really didn't think you could do this with a firewall. (call me dumb)

Well you know, CA eTrust has a centrally managed anti-virus solution
that can be deployed over RPC transparently and it does just that -- it
*claim* to eradicate viruses.

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