Yep, a firewall only protects your front door, nothing else. How they can make a claim that it will keep all workstations virus-free is beyond me... As long as you have CD/DVD drives, floppy drives, accessible USB ports, etc... you are susceptible to infestation from avenues other than your Internet connection, which is the ONLY thing the firewall is guarding. -----Original Message----- From: Troy Radtke [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 9:18 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Question http://www.ISAserver.org Case in point: Bob brings in his "really cool game" that he got from his cousin Tom in his e-mail called elfbowling.exe. He pops the cd-r he made into the system and runs the program. Five minutes later all the systems except that server are infected by a worm/virus running through the system. You can get virus/worms from other places than the internet/e-mail/external systems. Anyone with laptops in their environment can vouch for this issue. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 6:37 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Question http://www.ISAserver.org You're dumb.... -----Original Message----- From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 8:03 AM To: ISA Mailing List Subject: [isalist] Question http://www.ISAserver.org I have a client that is seriously thinking of using Nitix as their firewall. Does anyone know the good, the bad, and the ugly with Nitix? Basically they are looking at: Net Integrator Micro II Server with Nitix SB &5 Users Two-year hardware warranty extension (3 years total) Two-year extended Nitix Software Assurance (3 years total) Three-year AntiSpam Subscription Three-year Nitix Antivirus Subscription $1767 CAD They claim to be able to keep client machines on the network virus free? I really didn't think you could do this with a firewall. (call me dumb) Andrew