[isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006

  • From: "Ball, Dan" <DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:52:18 -0500

Yep, which is why I don't want to do that...

 

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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:40 PM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006

 

If you redirect HTTP traffic to HTTPS, then you've created an SSL Web
Publishing Rule.

 

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> 
Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)

 

         

        
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
        Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:35 PM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006

        Not that I know of.  I do not need SSL on that rule at all, and
haven't knowingly done that.

         

        
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
        Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:24 PM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006

         

        I've been swamped with another project, but are you sure you've
not created rules requiring client authentication over ssl from the
outside?  Are you just trying to publish a site over SSL?
        
        t
        
        
        On 1/31/07 9:11 AM, "Ball, Dan" <DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh to
all:

        I'm publishing two separate webservers right now and they are
both having the same problem, and both are reachable from the Intranet
with no SSL required.  
         

        
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d>  On Behalf Of Roy Tsao
        Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:59 AM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006
        
        
        - You may create another test webserver
        
        - Use your exising publishing rule to publish that new test site
        
        I am still wondering the configuration at your web server side.

                
                ----- Original Message ----- 
                
                From: Ball, Dan <mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx>   
                
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                
                Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:57 PM
                
                Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006
                
                
                Okay, I worked on it for quite awhile, cleaned up rules
and removed defined protocols that weren't in use anymore, and still get
the error...  I was able to possibly identify the cause of the previous
log though, and bring it down to three log entries that occur every time
I attempt to access the website when the redirect to HTTPS is disabled.
                 
                Original Client IP            Client Agent
Authenticated Client       Service  Server Name      Referring Server
Destination Host Name   Transport           MIME Type        Object
Source   Source Proxy    Destination Proxy         Bidirectional
Client Host Name   Filter Information           Network Interface
Raw IP Header   Raw Payload     GMT Log Time   Source Port
Processing Time            Bytes Sent        Bytes Received  Result Code
HTTP Status Code         Cache Information           Error Information
Log Record Type           Authentication Server     Log Time
Destination IP    Destination Port     Protocol           Action   Rule
Client IP            Client Username           Source Network
Destination Network            HTTP Method    URL
                0.0.0.0  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT
6.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506; MAPSIE; InfoPath.2;
MAPSIE)     Yes      Reverse Proxy  GATEWAY
www.mapsnet.org         TCP                             -           -
-           Req ID: 13fae90a          -          -          -
1/31/2007 3:18:58 AM    0         1         2293           392
12241 The page must be viewed over a secure channel (Secure Sockets
Layer (SSL)). Contact the server administrator.      0x0       0x0
Web Proxy Filter                       1/30/2007 10:18:58 PM
24.213.58.250   80        http            Failed Connection Attempt
Web Server       75.128.225.6    anonymous       External
GET           http://www.mapsnet.org/
                75.128.225.6
GATEWAY       -                      TCP      -
-                                              1/31/2007 3:18:58 AM
51603   12000  644       2505     0x80074e20 FWX_E_GRACEFUL_SHUTDOWN
0x0       0x0      Firewall -          1/30/2007 10:18:58 PM
24.213.58.250   80           HTTP    Closed Connection
75.128.225.6                External           Local Host        -
-
                75.128.225.6
GATEWAY       -                      TCP      -
-                                              1/31/2007 3:18:58 AM
51604  0         0         0          0x0 ERROR_SUCCESS            0x0
0x0      Firewall -          1/30/2007 10:18:58 PM  24.213.58.250    80
HTTP    Initiated Connection                  75.128.225.6
External           Local Host        -           -
                 
                 

                
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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d>  On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
                Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:20 PM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006
                
                No, that's the whole point; it's not supposed to
authenticate incoming connections! *grin* 
                 
                Reviewing the logs further, I'm starting to get even
more confused...  The "SERVERNAME" portion refers to my PDC, but the IP
associated with it in each request changes from my ISA server to the
webserver.  Initially, I was looking at the webserver as a possible
culprit, but the more I look at it I'm starting to look at the ISA
server instead.
                 
                I'll test it some more tonight if I can, disabling a
couple of suspect rules (and SurfControl) as a test to see if they might
be the culprit.
                 

                
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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d>  On Behalf Of Steve Moffat
                Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:05 PM
                To: ISA Mailing List
                Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006
                
                You are authenticating incoming clients??
                 
                Against what?
                 
                S
                 
                
                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d>  On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
                Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:15 AM
                To: ISA Mailing List
                Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006
                
                Okay, now we're getting somewhere...  I didn't see
anything sticking out, so I started looking for other events around the
same timeframe.  I ran across several WEBDAV entries that repeated
themselves about the same timeframe, AND they contained the same text I
saw in IE...
                 
                 
                Original Client IP            Client Agent
Authenticated Client       Service  Server Name      Referring Server
Destination Host Name    Transport          MIME Type        Object
Source  Source Proxy    Destination Proxy         Bidirectional
Client Host Name   Filter Information           Network Interface
Raw IP Header   Raw Payload     GMT Log Time   Source Port
Processing Time            Bytes Sent        Bytes Received  Result Code
HTTP Status Code         Cache Information           Error Information
Log Record Type           Authentication Server     Log Time
Destination IP    Destination Port     Protocol           Action   Rule
Client IP           Client Username           Source Network Destination
Network           HTTP Method    URL
                0.0.0.0 Microsoft-WebDAV-MiniRedir/6.0.6000
Reverse Proxy   GATEWAY       -           SERVERNAME TCP     -
Req ID: 13da6168                                             1/29/2007
2:33:07 AM   0           1         141      146                  12241
The page must be viewed over a secure channel (Secure Sockets Layer
(SSL)). Contact the server administrator.            0x0       0x0
Web Proxy Filter           -           1/28/2007 9:33:07 PM
24.213.58.250   80        http       Failed Connection Attempt
Web Server       75.128.225.6    anonymous           External
-          OPTIONS          http://SERVERNAME/
                0.0.0.0 Microsoft-WebDAV-MiniRedir/6.0.6000
Reverse Proxy   GATEWAY       -          servername       TCP     -
Internet                                                Req ID: 13da616a
1/29/2007 2:33:07 AM   0           16        430      146
200      0x40020000       0xc00   Web Proxy Filter           -
1/28/2007 9:33:07 PM       10.20.1.4          80        https
Allowed Connection       Web Server      75.128.225.6    anonymous
External            -          OPTIONS         http://servername/
                0.0.0.0 Microsoft-WebDAV-MiniRedir/6.0.6000
Reverse Proxy   GATEWAY       -           SERVERNAME TCP      -
Req ID: 13da616c                                             1/29/2007
2:33:07 AM    0           1         152      168                  12241
The page must be viewed over a secure channel (Secure Sockets Layer
(SSL)). Contact the server administrator.            0x0       0x0
Web Proxy Filter           -           1/28/2007 9:33:07 PM
24.213.58.250    80        http       Failed Connection Attempt
Web Server      75.128.225.6    anonymous           External           -
PROPFIND        http://SERVERNAME/Hiddenshare$
<http://technology/Technology$> <http://technology/Technology$>  
                 
                Looks like there is a request to my PDC every time, and
it is being blocked because it is an anonymous outbound connection on
port 80.  That explains why I'm getting the errors, now to figure out
why it is doing that.
                 

                
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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d>  On Behalf Of Steve Moffat
                Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 8:09 AM
                To: ISA Mailing List
                Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006
                
                What do the ISA logs say??
                S
                 
                
                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d>  On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
                Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:00 AM
                To: ISA Mailing List
                Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006
                
                Webserver is on internal network; no SSL required at the
webserver itself (Just tested it again to make sure).
                 

                
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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d>  On Behalf Of Roy Tsao
                Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:40 AM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006
                
                
                The website you published is SSL required, so
                
                - when you publish through HTTP connection, access is
denied
                
                - when you redirect to HTTPs by ISA, it works.
                
                Then, you may need to check any changing at your
published web server but
                
                not ISA.
                
                
                
                
                

                        
                        ----- Original Message ----- 
                        
                        From: Ball, Dan <mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx>   
                        
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        
                        Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:13 PM
                        
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006
                        
                        
                        Here is the scenario:
                        - I remove all publishing rules and web
listeners, so I can start over.
                        - I go through the wizard to publish a single
webserver.  I take all the defaults, saying no SSL is required.
                        - When it gets to the part about a web listener,
I create a new one, taking the default settings and specifying no SSL or
authentication is required.
                        - The rule is done; I apply the changes, and
test it.  I get a 403 error.
                        - I edit the listener to redirect traffic to
HTTPS, and it works.
                         
                        There must be something simple I missed...
                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d>  On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
                        Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 11:48 PM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006
                        
                        The rule works with the related listener.
                        You cannot evaluate one without including the
other - period.
                        The listener; not the rule is what determines if
HTTP/HTTPS redirection is possible.
                        If the listener doesn't accept HTTP, then it
can't redirect it to HTTPS.
                        You're not trying to publish a stealth service,
are you?
                         
                        
                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d>  On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
                        Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:51 AM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006
                        
                        Not Exchange traffic, but the main web server.
They both use the same listener, so it makes it difficult to modify one
but not the other.  Once I got the webserver working, I was planning on
taking Tom's suggestion that he had awhile back and using a redirect
page to redirect OWA calls to an alternate port/listener.
                         
                        In any case, in this particular instance I'm
referring to normal web traffic that I want in plain-text.  Correct me
if I'm wrong, but I was under the assumption that if the publishing rule
was not working "non-SSL", then both the "authenticated traffic" and
"all traffic" options would behave the same way.  I.e., they would both
return an error if the client wasn't capable of the connection.  
                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d>  On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
                        Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 11:57 AM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006
                        
                        You never had ISA 2004 doing the redirects
without custom code.
                        It did not have this option.
                         
                        Let's get this straight - you want to publish
plain-text Exchange web traffic?!?
                        Also; "Redirect authenticated traffic from HTTP
to HTTPS" option in the web listener.  This works because it redirects
all web traffic to HTTPS" is incorrect; that setting only redirects
traffic which has already been authenticated - probably why only some
requests are working.  Change it to redirect "ALL" requests.
                         
                        
                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d>  On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
                        Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:04 AM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006
                        
                        Nope, same server, and ISA_Redirects have never
been used on that server.  I used to publish the website without
requiring SSL, now that is the only way I can get it to work.  In fact,
I used the "connections" tab in the listener to force everything over to
HTTPS, just to get it working.  I just can't figure out how to get it
publish "without" SSL, as there seem to be some browsers that have a
problem with that method.  While I'd like to tell them to fix their own
system and get over it, that won't fly with a "public" website.  
                         
                        Where can I start looking for clues on this
problem?
                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d>  On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
                        Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:29 AM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006
                        
                        
                        That error response can only be obtained when
web publishing.
                        IIS response is quite different.
                        You probably were using the ISA_Redirects tool
or something similar and forgot to move it to the new server.
                        The good news is that in ISA 2006, such custom
mechanisms aren't required.
                        In the listener "Connections" tab, you can opt
to redirect anonymous or authenticated HTTP connections to HTTPS.
                         
                        
                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
<mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d>  On Behalf Of Roy Tsao
                        Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 1:18 AM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: Publishing in ISA2006
                        
                        
                        Original publishing is SSL bridge or tunneling?

                                
                                ----- Original Message ----- 
                                
                                From: Ball, Dan
<mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx>   
                                
                                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                                
                                Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:40 AM
                                
                                Subject: [isalist] Publishing in ISA2006
                                
                                
                                When I upgraded ISA2004 to ISA2006, my
published webserver and Exchange server no longer worked.  
                                 
                                Browsing to the website gave me this
error:
                                Error Code: 403 Forbidden. The page must
be viewed over a secure channel (Secure Sockets Layer (SSL)). Contact
the server administrator. (12241)
                                
                                Typing https:// into the URL allowed the
traffic to flow.
                                
                                The only way I could get it to work was
to enable the "Redirect authenticated traffic from HTTP to HTTPS" option
in the web listener.  This works because it redirects all web traffic to
HTTPS.  However, it doesn't work for all pages, we have a few pages that
have problems, and have had reports from some people that cannot access
the website at all.
                                 
                                So, I need to get this working properly
again.  I've deleted all of the publishing rules and the web listener
several times, recreating everything from scratch; it still gives me the
same error.  I've followed every tutorial I could find, it appears that
I'm doing it correctly.  There must be some little detail that I'm
missing with ISA2006.  Probably something obvious, but it is eluding
me...
                                 
                                Anyone have any ideas? 

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