RE: Protocol question

  • From: "Steve Moffat" <steve@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "ISA Mailing List" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:13:02 -0300

With lots of slaps on the back 

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:11 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question

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Hugs!  


Tom
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:03 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question

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E-Group-hug!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Kenny Mann [mailto:nazadus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 09:46
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question

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No one can make a real judgement on anyone from this thread alone, much
less an online personality.
I'm sure Jim and many others have given a great amount of information to
many people. If their attitude is/was that bad, then this list would be
fairly empty.
Every list has it's own social atmosphere. Sometimes the atmosphere
requires people jumping on someone.
This doesn't make the person an ass, as I'm fairly certain Jim and
everyone else had the best of intentions. Even if they didn't, my
knee-jerk would lead me to believe it was just a bad day. It just means
that they are trying to get a point across and don't believe you are
listening.


Now, what this thread needs is some good ole fashioned lovin'.
/runs

Take this from a peon with blue/fading to green/grey haired person...

I'm off to go home, everyone have a great weekend!

Kenny 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:34 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question

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Thank you.
It's always nice to get free sociological analysis from a complete
stranger.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 07:40
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question

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Kenny has quite a few valid points in his posts. 

The bottom line is I had already posted a similar question if not the
same kind of question before in this list and didn't hide the fact that
I was trying to get a game working behind ISA 2004 Server and I got
nothing but flack. As Kenny said in his posts if you didn't want help
then don't help.

There are two types' bosses, there is the boss who wants to know all the
nitty gritty deals and the end results, and then there is the boss who
doesn't care how you did it he just wants it done. 

Not once did you (expect for Steve and someone else) says; There
different scenarios for when you need to use the secondary connection a
couple might be....blah.. otherwise just create a new protocol with your
Inbound TCP ports and call it a day. You have made this whole thing into
a science fair; oh well the molecular structure of the TCP/IP ports are
x over y to the power of pie times 34 over 150, and then flamed me left
right and center after you found out that I was trying to run a game
through my own ISA
2004
Server again. 

I had my wife who has a degree in sociology look at the cheap shot
comments you were making and she was totally shocked and wonder how your
wives deal with such crap because you all sounded like a bunch of
nerds!? (and you know who you are, I am not going to mention any
names...)

In the future keep it simple. I really don't want to know the politics
of why it should or shouldn't be done, it's my server it's my risk not
yours, sure you can remind me that you don't agree with doing it but you
can force me to not do it. 

I am done with this thread. (Protocol question)

Andrew



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