RE: Protocol question
- From: "Paul Nuernberger" <pen@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'[ISAserver.org Discussion List]'" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:01:31 -0500
I hate to be the bearer of more "cheap shots", but that answer could not
possibly have come out of your first question. Once he knew what game you
were asking about he solved your problem (for you).
BTW, I have found that this list works well in helping others solve their
problems interactively, and less well when just asking for "packaged"
solutions.
Lets give this issue a rest, shall we ??
Paul Nuernberger
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:06 AM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question
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Well if someone had answered my first question correctly with some
intelligence it would taken less than 20mins!
Thanks Steve,
Andrew
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:17 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question
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OK
Here we go
Create 2 new protocols
1. port 3724 TCP outbound
2. port 3724 TCP inbound
Create an allow rule using the above protocols for the pc that you are going
to use to play the game, make sure the firewall client is installed.
Start the game, monitor the isa logs to see what other ports are needed,
inbound and outbound. Create protocols and add to the rule when needed.
Jeez.......I got it working in 20 mins.
S
-----Original Message-----
From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:11 PM
To: ISA Mailing List
Subject: [isalist] RE: Protocol question
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Responding to multiple posts:
While it is everyone's absolute right to do what they chose with what they
purchase, part of that right is removed when you are using that purchase to
provide services for others.
If Andrew was mealy saying he wanted his ISA to both be as a firewall for
his computers and all on-line gaming that is his choice. But once his
actions can affect others, and in this case, his clients, a different set of
standards MUST prevail.
I have a professional, ethical, moral and legal duty to conduct and use my
computer in a manner that does not comprise or expose the data of my
clients.
IMHO, configuring my computer and firewall for on-line gaming breaks that
duty.
If you are curious as to the security breaches and comprises in computers
running on-line games, just visit any Internet Gaming Center/Café. Most if
not all use software on the computers that does one of 2 things: A) Able to
reapply the computer image daily or weekly. B) Software installed that
prevents changes to the files and registry on the computer but allowing
applications to think that it is being changed. (I do not remember what that
software is called, but it is designed so that a user can do what they want
to the computer, and then upon restart it is back to normal. If I remember,
it costs like $50 per computer for an annual license.) Most will not have
firewalls in place because most people do not know how to properly configure
a firewall for on-line gaming. (Needs to be in standard or pass through mode
with computers having public IPs.)
It is estimated that 75% of all computers outside of Internet Gaming centers
also have one or more of the following installed whether intentional or not:
File sharing programs, Chat programs, Trojans, Viruses, Spyware and so
forth. Think about that for a minute. That high of a percentage can not be
by choice of that computer user/owner.
Remember, the hackers and other bad guys out there also know which ports are
needed for what games. As I had read recently about on-line game
vulnerabilities, the focus on the software that runs these games is not on
security and as such vulnerabilities can and are found at a much higher rate
than the general public knows about.
So, IMO, the question of appropriateness for this list is not of content. It
is how the poster is asking the questions and for what purpose.
John T
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