RE: Pop UP Ads

  • From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 10:44:17 -0500

Hi Shawn,

Great post!

Thanks!
Tom

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-----Original Message-----
From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CIT1.1) *
[mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 2:29 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Pop UP Ads


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To help narrow things down, go get the GNU port of posix tools for Win32
and
use tail and grep together to watch your log in realtime.  So if the IP
of
the machine you're testing with is 1.2.3.4, then do this:

> tail -f webd20030808.log | grep 1.2.3.4

Then look for the lines that have result codes of something equalling a
deny.  I do this all the time when I open a site for all-out access, but
someone's !$#@% ad site or image host is creating authentication prompts
all
over the place.

-Shawn

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 3:20 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Pop UP Ads


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We're talking about two different things:
1. the fix does remove the name lookup requirement for Web Proxy
traffic;
BTDTGTTSWIOTIA.  If you have some evidence other than this particular
issue
to indicate otherwise, I'm all ears (looks funny, but I hear really
well).

2. the problem you still experience stems from the way ISA is comparing
the:
    - request as presented by the client
    - the destinations as listed in the problematic destination set

As I pointed out, it's very much a hit-and-miss process to isolate the
problem entry among 20MB worth of them, since the logs don't tell us
what
the actual match data was.
Consequently, you'll have to try some variation of the standard
half-split
troubleshooting method to reduce the set to the interesting entry.
This is time-consuming, but it's more accurate than the "what's broke?"
method...

 Jim Harrison
 MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
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 Read the help, books and articles!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frederic Giroux" <fgiroux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 11:48
Subject: [isalist] RE: Pop UP Ads


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Jim Harrison said...

_________________________________________
That fix does work in that ISA no longer tries to perform name lookups
on
client requests (tested it myself).
I recommended it to remove the possibility that reverse / fwd name
lookups
were contributing to the problem.

The fact that the rule still fires for this request means that ISA found
a
data set in the rule that matched the request.
Unfortunately, it's VERY difficult to say what specific entry was used
to
make a decision, since the logs don't include that data.
_________________________________________



Well, in my case, for some reason, it didn't work and I know for a fact
that
the sites that are inaccssible and shouldn't are NOT listed in the
destinati
on set.

Could it be the version of w3proxy.exe?  Jim, what version do you have?

Fred

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