Hi Tom Probably, but my point to Francisco was that after posting his int and ext ip addresses, his network was wide open to everybody, to do what they liked, I actually managed to connect to his server via mmc and had complete management of his server, didn't go quite as far as mapping drives etc, but I did grab his sam. Pretty silly if you ask me. Steve.....:)) P.S. The postscript on the end was added by one of my colleagues who thought he was being funny, ( I I had left my desk for a couple of minutes, and he finished off the email and sent it, big joke)....children...:)) This E-Mail is confidential. It is not intended to be read, copied, disclosed or used by any person other than the recipient. Unauthorised use, disclosure, or copying is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Optimum Computer Solutions disclaims any liability for any action taken in connection of this E-Mail. The comments or statements expressed in this E-Mail are not necessarily those of Optimum Computer Solutions or its subsidiaries or affiliates. usermanager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx