http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- In New Jersey? Amy -----Original Message----- From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ISA Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:56 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] OT: DNS and Forwarders http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- While on the phone with MS PPS - I asked (twice) him to consider the PIX501 (while providing them full access to its logs and dashboard) as the source of the problem. They consistently put that possibility to the side (in reserve) and opted for the (disable EDNS) move. We'll find out in the next 24 hours if he was right. Side Note: When the cable guy came to run/install the co-axle cable, he went into the attic and ran into a 5-foot black snake slithering between the rafters. Joseph F. Danielsen, MCSA - Exchange Messaging Specialist, MCP Network Blade Inc. 49 Marcy Street Somerset, NJ 08873 732-213-0600 www.networkblade.com -----Original Message----- From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Mulholland Posted At: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:21 PM Posted To: ISA Conversation: [isalist] Re: OT: DNS and Forwarders Subject: [isalist] Re: OT: DNS and Forwarders http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- agreed! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:00 AM Subject: [isalist] Re: OT: DNS and Forwarders > http://www.ISAserver.org > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Well, it's feasible in any ISA configuration... But yes, not with Joseph's > single server client (which I didn't know didn't have ISA...) > > t > > > On 10/18/06 3:37 PM, "Greg Mulholland" <gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh > to > all: > >> http://www.ISAserver.org >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> >> whilst i agree with the principle totally, its not always feasible in >> some >> environments...catching up on mail, can ya tell? >> >> Greg >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:51 AM >> Subject: [isalist] Re: OT: DNS and Forwarders >> >> >>> http://www.ISAserver.org >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Why do your internal clients need to resolve DNS directly? I never ever >>> use >>> forwarders on my AD boxes. I always create root zones on my AD DNS >>> servers >>> and only use ISA to resolve DNS for web proxy/fw clients. >>> >>> That's where what I consider "true" security and separation comes from. >>> >>> t >>> >>> >>> On 10/18/06 9:13 AM, "ISA" <ISA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh to all: >>> >>>> http://www.ISAserver.org >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> This actually has happened with and without forwarders - >>>> >>>> Steve, I interpret your suggestion as using only the Root Hints? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Joseph Danielsen, MCSA-Messaging, MCP >>>> >>>> Network Blade Inc. >>>> >>>> 49 Marcy Street >>>> >>>> Somerset, NJ 08873 >>>> >>>> 732-213-0600 >>>> >>>> www.networkblade.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>> On Behalf Of Steve Moffat >>>> Posted At: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:08 PM >>>> Posted To: ISA >>>> Conversation: [isalist] Re: OT: DNS and Forwarders >>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: OT: DNS and Forwarders >>>> >>>> http://www.ISAserver.org >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> FWIW.....I have 2 caching only DNS Servers that I setup to use as >>>> forwarders for my AD DNS Servers, when I use them, I get the very same >>>> issue. If I however, remove them from the forwarders section, I have no >>>> DNS Issues at all whatsoever, anytime. >>>> >>>> S >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>> On Behalf Of ISA >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 1:03 PM >>>> To: ISA Mailing List >>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: OT: DNS and Forwarders >>>> >>>> http://www.ISAserver.org >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Thanks Mike: >>>> >>>> I will try clearing the cache - but this happens now about everyday >>>> (morning usually). I really have to find the source of the problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Joseph Danielsen, MCSA-Messaging, MCP >>>> >>>> Network Blade Inc. >>>> >>>> 49 Marcy Street >>>> >>>> Somerset, NJ 08873 >>>> >>>> 732-213-0600 >>>> >>>> www.networkblade.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>> On Behalf Of Michael Ross >>>> Posted At: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:01 PM >>>> Posted To: ISA >>>> Conversation: [isalist] OT: DNS and Forwarders >>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: OT: DNS and Forwarders >>>> >>>> http://www.ISAserver.org >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Windows 2003 DNS servers? >>>> Believe it or not, ive seen that . It's a cache pollution type of >>>> behavior, with no logging or other signs to prove that. >>>> Try to clear the DNS cache next time and see if it helps. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>> On Behalf Of ISA >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:59 AM >>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [isalist] OT: DNS and Forwarders >>>> >>>> http://www.ISAserver.org >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Steve: Funny you should say that because I've done that a few times. >>>> >>>> DNS stops - I removed the forwards - Restart DNS - DNS works. >>>> DNS stops - I change the forwards - Restart DNS - DNS works. >>>> >>>> I want to blame my server but I'm just not sure where the failure is. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Joseph Danielsen, MCSA-Messaging, MCP >>>> >>>> Network Blade Inc. >>>> >>>> 49 Marcy Street >>>> >>>> Somerset, NJ 08873 >>>> >>>> 732-213-0600 >>>> >>>> www.networkblade.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>> On Behalf Of Steve Moffat >>>> Posted At: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:55 AM Posted To: ISA >>>> Conversation: [isalist] OT: DNS and Forwarders >>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: OT: DNS and Forwarders >>>> >>>> http://www.ISAserver.org >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Remove the forwarders.....then see how fast your Internet speed >>>> gets...:) >>>> >>>> S >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>> On Behalf Of ISA >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:49 PM >>>> To: ISA Mailing List >>>> Subject: [isalist] OT: DNS and Forwarders >>>> >>>> http://www.ISAserver.org >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Hello All - >>>> >>>> This might be off-topic, but has anyone 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