[isalist] Re: Nothing is secure like PIX
- From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:04:35 -0700
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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of John Becker
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 10:03
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Subject: [isalist] Re: Nothing is secure like PIX
Relative to Jim ;-)
On Wednesday, June 21, 2006, at 09:11 AM, Thomas W Shinder wrote:
Normally mild mannered? :)
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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Becker
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 10:44 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Nothing is secure like PIX
An impressive outburst from the normally mild mannered TWS. Enjoyed it
immensely!
JB
On Wednesday, June 21, 2006, at 08:05 AM, Thomas W Shinder wrote:
Hi EM,
You are right. PIX is not very secure. It's a router with some advanced
ACLs and does neat routing tricks. But when it comes to security, you're very
very wrong that it's more secure. Hardware doesn't fall from heaven, and all
"hardware" is controlled by software, and Syphco's core compentancy is not
application protection -- it's routing and switching.
I agree that there is no comparison between PIX and ISA -- only a fool
would be convinced that they get any real security from a PIX, becuase they
never took the time to learn about network security and what the end game was.
Check Point? That's another story.
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