I think you need to get some commercial reality. If Steve has spent a lot of his time/expertise/effort in turning isaserver.org and this list into a success, why shouldn't he reap some benefits. Perhaps you would prefer this list to become subscription based ? Personally, when I have a problem, my time is better spent finding a solution than messing around subscribing/unsubscribing to lists. Besides I keep a store of all emails from the lists I subscribe to so I have a ready made knowledgebase. I agree that the adds could get in the way for a thread consisting of one or two sentences. Perhaps a way of parsing out these adds so only one appears in each posting. I am sure weblists would be very interested in helping with this as it would provide a unique selling point for their services. Patrick Scott -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Michaud [mailto:anthonym@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 20 July 2001 04:49 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: New List http://www.ISAserver.org When you're following a thread that's compromised of 1-2 sentence replies, and there are a few of them, you can be guaranteed that the add's won't be trimmed out, so a 1/2 page email chain gets expanded to over two pages - that slows things down far more than google does. -- Anthony Michaud Network Administrator eLogix Corporation Pty Ltd Blessed are those who have no expectations, for they will never be disappointed. --Buddha > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, 20 July 2001 13:14 > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] Re: New List > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > <giggle> > That's sounds like a lot more effort than just scrolling past the > "offending" entry in your free mail, but then it seems to > bother me less... > > Jim Harrison > MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anthony Michaud" <anthonym@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:54 PM > Subject: [isalist] Re: New List > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Quite simply - tough. There is no *need* to provide a list with > advertisements - period. There have been at least two offers, and i'm > sure there will be more if the request goes up - this can't > be an issue! > List members have asked for no adds (and yes, I'm definitely one of > them) so why is there a problem? Besides, I don't have a problem with > this - I'll unsubscribe, and if I can't live without the list > (theres a > world of http sites that (although maybe slower) may have the > information required). Failing that, subscribing for a quick > question, > getting the answer, then getting off will suffice for me too. > > > -- > Anthony Michaud > Network Administrator > eLogix Corporation Pty Ltd > > Blessed are those who have no expectations, for they will never be > disappointed. --Buddha > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Friday, 20 July 2001 09:42 > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] Re: New List > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > Folks, let's get a clue. Steve is creating, providing and > > moderating the > > list. I agree that ads can be a nuisance, but it's not the > > end of the world > > if we get them with our *free* listserv. Like the SLA you > > get with the > > advice on this list... > > > > Jim Harrison > > MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Anthony Michaud" <anthonym@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:33 PM > > Subject: [isalist] Re: New List > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Stephen Chetcuti [mailto:isainfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2001 20:40 > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: New List > > > > <snip> > > > > > The ads are gone also, though Lists are quite expensive to > > > keep, therefore i > > > might eventually introduce adverts again, though this time, > > > they will be > > > promoting ISA Server related products and i will leave the > > > ads at the bottom > > > of the messages for minimal inconvenience. > > > > Why? They prove nothing, only to annoy most subscribers of > the list. > > You've had at least two offers to host the list - so this > > should not be > > an issue! The problem with advertising on such a widely distributed > > mailing list is that the advertisements are going to be > applicable to > > some of the list - unless you specifically look for > products that the > > newer staff don't know about, and that haven't been > discussed already. > > > > I seriously doubt that advertisers will generate any income, > > and the net > > result will be that you're sending out *more* data, annoying > > list users, > > although you might slightly offset the cost of running the list. > > > > I'll stand by the statement that if advertising becomes too > > inconvenient, I'll either move to another list that doesn't have > > advertising, or another medium altogether. > > > > I would like to ask that if you do decided to put advertising > > on anyway, > > before advertising please notify the list with adequate > lead time, to > > either voice opinions again, or to unsubscribe. > > > > Anthony. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org > Discussion List as: > > jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > $subst('Email.Unsub') > > To customise your settings for the list, kindly visit > > http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion > > List as: anthonym@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > $subst('Email.Unsub') > > To customise your settings for the list, kindly visit > > http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: > jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > $subst('Email.Unsub') > To customise your settings for the list, kindly visit > http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion > List as: anthonym@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > $subst('Email.Unsub') > To customise your settings for the list, kindly visit > http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: patricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') To customise your settings for the list, kindly visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist