Re: Limited AD Integration

  • From: "Mark Strangways" <strangconst@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:09:36 -0400

Now oddly enough, "I told you so" WAS my mothers doing. :)
Ah well, it's all in fun .

Later
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 10:06 PM
Subject: [isalist] Re: Limited AD Integration


> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>
> Strangely enough, I'm happier with "I didn't have to tell you I told you
> so"...  Must be my mother's doing...
>
> Jim Harrison
> MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Strangways" <strangconst@xxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:58 PM
> Subject: [isalist] Re: Limited AD Integration
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>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>
> Your problem with that is ?
>
> I love the "I told ya so's" , but alas I don't get to use them often.
>
> regards,
>
> Mark
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 7:54 PM
> Subject: [isalist] Re: Limited AD Integration
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> > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >
> > Don't I wish!  8-)
> > That's the ideal (long term, no upgrade) machine for his needs.
> > He can use a PII-300, 256MB RAM, 9GB HDD if he wants, but I'll just be
> > saying "I told you so"...
> >
> > Jim Harrison
> > MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Strangways" <strangconst@xxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 4:44 PM
> > Subject: [isalist] Re: Limited AD Integration
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> >     You must work for a computer hardware supplier :)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:26 PM
> > Subject: [isalist] Re: Limited AD Integration
> >
> >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. The stateful inspection isn't the RAM -grabber, it's active
caching.
> > > 2. ISA effectiveness isn't measured by RAM, although installing it
over
> > > W2KAS on 128MB RAM will drag its figurative butt across the carpet.
> > >
> > > 3. For that amount of traffic:
> > > Single 1GHz proc
> > > 768MB RAM for caching support;
> > >     calculation: 256MB (base) + (128MB + (.5M * users)) =  584MB,
round
> up
> > > to next 128MB for room in the overhead
> > > Drives (LVD-160 SCSI, of course):
> > >     1 9GB system drive
> > >     1 18GB cache drive (keep them separated if you like your hair)
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > > Jim Harrison
> > > MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Skeeve Stevens" <skeeve@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 3:00 PM
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Limited AD Integration
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Limited AD Integration
> > >
> > > >     "Limited" means it plays nice with AD security (users,
> > > > groups), but has no real dependency on the AD itself.  It
> > > > would play just as nice with an NT4 domain.  If you're
> > > > building a very small deployment behind ISA (< 200 clients),
> > > > then a single fast, fat server would probably suffice.  I'd
> > > > still recommend that you have a second one installed for failover.
> > >
> > > 2nd one means a huge cost blowout if you want them centrally
managed...
> > > i.e. you will need Enterprise.
> > >
> > > Company I am with doesn't really believe in failover... we just back
> > > things up... yes I know that sucks, but they are cheap asses... which
is
> > > why we didn't go Firewall-1 ;-)
> > >
> > > The number of clients will be about 400... but with low usage.  As
long
> > > as I can still set up the security using NT/AD groups, then the
> > > standalone will be fine.
> > >
> > > As for hardware... what are we talking about?
> > >
> > > I was looking at a rack mounted Compaq DL?? with a 1G PIII and either
> > > 512MB of Ram, or more if needed... also probably about 36G of disk.
> > >
> > > With the stateful inspection, I have heard you need more Ram the more
> > > effective you want that to be... is that true?
> > >
> > > PS... Thanx Jim for your help...
> > >
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