Now oddly enough, "I told you so" WAS my mothers doing. :) Ah well, it's all in fun . Later ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 10:06 PM Subject: [isalist] Re: Limited AD Integration > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Strangely enough, I'm happier with "I didn't have to tell you I told you > so"... Must be my mother's doing... > > Jim Harrison > MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Strangways" <strangconst@xxxxxxxx> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:58 PM > Subject: [isalist] Re: Limited AD Integration > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Your problem with that is ? > > I love the "I told ya so's" , but alas I don't get to use them often. > > regards, > > Mark > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 7:54 PM > Subject: [isalist] Re: Limited AD Integration > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > Don't I wish! 8-) > > That's the ideal (long term, no upgrade) machine for his needs. > > He can use a PII-300, 256MB RAM, 9GB HDD if he wants, but I'll just be > > saying "I told you so"... > > > > Jim Harrison > > MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Strangways" <strangconst@xxxxxxxx> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 4:44 PM > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Limited AD Integration > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > Jim, > > > > You must work for a computer hardware supplier :) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:26 PM > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Limited AD Integration > > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > > > > 1. The stateful inspection isn't the RAM -grabber, it's active caching. > > > 2. ISA effectiveness isn't measured by RAM, although installing it over > > > W2KAS on 128MB RAM will drag its figurative butt across the carpet. > > > > > > 3. For that amount of traffic: > > > Single 1GHz proc > > > 768MB RAM for caching support; > > > calculation: 256MB (base) + (128MB + (.5M * users)) = 584MB, round > up > > > to next 128MB for room in the overhead > > > Drives (LVD-160 SCSI, of course): > > > 1 9GB system drive > > > 1 18GB cache drive (keep them separated if you like your hair) > > > > > > HTH, > > > Jim Harrison > > > MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Skeeve Stevens" <skeeve@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 3:00 PM > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Limited AD Integration > > > > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Limited AD Integration > > > > > > > "Limited" means it plays nice with AD security (users, > > > > groups), but has no real dependency on the AD itself. It > > > > would play just as nice with an NT4 domain. If you're > > > > building a very small deployment behind ISA (< 200 clients), > > > > then a single fast, fat server would probably suffice. I'd > > > > still recommend that you have a second one installed for failover. > > > > > > 2nd one means a huge cost blowout if you want them centrally managed... > > > i.e. you will need Enterprise. > > > > > > Company I am with doesn't really believe in failover... we just back > > > things up... yes I know that sucks, but they are cheap asses... which is > > > why we didn't go Firewall-1 ;-) > > > > > > The number of clients will be about 400... but with low usage. As long > > > as I can still set up the security using NT/AD groups, then the > > > standalone will be fine. > > > > > > As for hardware... what are we talking about? > > > > > > I was looking at a rack mounted Compaq DL?? with a 1G PIII and either > > > 512MB of Ram, or more if needed... also probably about 36G of disk. > > > > > > With the stateful inspection, I have heard you need more Ram the more > > > effective you want that to be... is that true? > > > > > > PS... 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