[isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re: webchaining.
- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:58:11 -0600
Grasshopper. When Master give to you answer obvious to fools, what does
that mean to respected pupal?
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:48 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
webchaining.
oh man.. i thought the guru of gurus had a solution.. HA.
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[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:47 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
webchaining.
Hi Mike,
Yep, that's a problem.
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:41 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Re: webchaining.
lets take this one step further.
on my upstream proxy, i see the logs rolling by, and i
see usernames and the IP address of the downstream proxy.
ok, so that is what it is.. however, when viewing the
monitoring tab on the downstream proxy, I only see 'anonymous' on every
session.
How could one correlate those 'anonymouses' with the
actual user ID in the event that you need to trace back web activity to
a user\IPaddress combo?
i only have authentication required on the upstream
proxy, otherwise, the users get prompted over and over to authenticate
to get out to the web.
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[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:36 PM
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Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
webchaining.
Hi Mike,
Listen here little feller:
If the Web Proxy Filter handles the request, then the
source IP address will always be the IP address of the ISA firewall.
I'll stand by that until I have a chance to test it, or
Jim tells me I'm wrong :)
Tom
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:18 PM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
webchaining.
on my upstream proxy, the before the firewall,
its set to Route, not NAT.
if it was set to NAT, the upstream proxy's IP
was shown.
so, i was hoping my downstream would show the
client IP
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[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:58 PM
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Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
webchaining.
Yep, that is weird.
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org
<http://www.isaserver.org/>
Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
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Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:40 PM
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Re: webchaining.
ya know i think its just odd.
right now my upstream proxy sends the
client IP to the firewall..
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[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:22 PM
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Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Re: webchaining.
You can't have it both ways. If you want
to use the local Web proxy, you must accept the source IP address being
that of the downstream ISA firewall.
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org
<http://www.isaserver.org/>
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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:18 PM
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Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Re: webchaining.
i want them to cache locally, but i want
one place to watch the activity
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Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:11 PM
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Re: webchaining.
What's the point of having them use the
local proxy? Why not just configure the clients to connect directly to
the upstream Web proxy and bypass proxy on the destination server? Turn
off Web proxy support on the downstream and away you go.
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:06 PM
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Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Re: webchaining.
so basically i have to setup something
to tail what's being entered into the MSDE database as the users hit the
web, right?
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[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:44 PM
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Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Re: webchaining.
Yes, but you won't have Web proxy
chaining. You need a ROUTE Network Rule and no Web proxy services at the
downstream. I.e., no local caching.
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org
<http://www.isaserver.org/>
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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:04 PM
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Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Re: webchaining.
any way to have it log the IP address of
the actual client on the upstream ISA? it would make monitoring the
clients so much easier.
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[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:49 AM
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Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Re: webchaining.
Hi Mike,
That's expected and what's supposed to
happen.
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org
<http://www.isaserver.org/>
Blog:
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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:38 AM
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Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
webchaining.
Another question.
When I watch my logs on the upstream
proxy, I see users coming thru with the IP address of the downstream
proxy, not of the client they are on.
Thoughts?
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