[isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] FTP Servers
- From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:19:58 -0800
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You *can* use "server" protocols in access rules, but the won't allow traffic
from the internal to the external net.
I seriously doubt that Andy has tested this with any reasonable process.
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Jim Harrison
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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 11:09
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Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] FTP Servers
Dude,
'preciate ya, but I don't think that can happen. You can use Server PDs in an
Access Rule, so unless something is more whack than what meets the eye, traces
are still in order.
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Moffat
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:02 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] FTP Servers
That's OK...I'll keep you and Jim on the right track...J
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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 3:02 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] FTP Servers
LOL! I didn't even notice that, it got lost in the noise :))
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Moffat
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:57 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] FTP
Servers
You are such a complete ass Andrew....the server protocol is
for publishing your own FTP servers. You want to allow the FTP protocol.
S
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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew English
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 3:04 PM
To: ISA Mailing List
Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] FTP
Servers
Jim,
None of the workstations use the web proxy, or firewall client
software of ISA 2004. They use Secure NAT, they are going out through ISA like
if you had a dummy Linksys cable DSL router.
Example:
ISA is on 192.168.1.1
GW: for all clients on the DHCP server is 192.168.1.1, again
there is no web proxy setup and no firewall client ware installed.
Secondly what I meant in my other comment which you are so
egger to twist around is that I have not tampered with the default firewall
settings of ISA, yes I have added my own rules to the system, but if you look
at the default core settings for ICMP, etc they have all been left alone.
Now are you going to keep acting this way if I say, you know
Jim I installed a new ISA server that only had two rules in it, one for the FTP
server to the outside using the default FTP Server protocol, and the other
which is the default DENY rule that ISA creates? Are you going to blame on the
web proxy or firewall client if neither are installed or being used?
Lets be realistic here, if you don't know the answer why ISA
out of the box with two rules in it won't connect to FTP servers that don't use
passive mode why make a fuss of it? Why not ask Bill to loan you one his boxes,
install ISA 2004, email me for a couple test accounts and go to town, then say
geez you know there is a bug or maybe Microsoft doesn't care? You have the
time and certainly the money to investigate it further, than I do yet you keep
hounding people to show you more evidence before you will get off your dairy
air and do something.. ;)
Regards,
Andrew
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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Jim Harrison
Sent: Wed 22/03/2006 12:33 PM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] FTP
Servers
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No - you said:
"I seem to only be able to get access to FTP servers using PASV
modem on my workstations that are setup under secure NAT".
This leaves the failing case hanging somewhere between web
proxy and firewall clients.
You also stated:
"..I have had to reinstall ISA 2004.." and "Nothing on the ISA
configuration level has been modified or changed", which are just a bit
contradictory.
You haven't given anyone anything to work from, like:
- client errors
- ISA logs
- captures
If the problem is important enough to involve an entire list,
its important enough to provide something more than conjecture and
contradiction.
There are a great many FTP servers that disallow active mode;
and with good reason.
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Jim Harrison
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