RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 server without a frontend.

From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 20:36:37 -0500
Not bad, just not as good. Why put an Internet facing device on the same
segment as a non-Internet facing device?

Tom
www.isaserver.org/shinder
Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
MVP -- ISA Firewalls

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 8:25 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 server 
> without a frontend.
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> You lost me there... Why is having the FE and BE on the same 
> network bad for 
> ISA2004?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 6:11 PM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 server 
> without a 
> frontend.
> 
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> Yes, makes sense. Just like they recommend putting the FE 
> server on the
> same network as the BE. It was good advice for ISA Server 
> 2000, but not
> for 2004.
> 
> Tom
> www.isaserver.org/shinder
> Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
> http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:00 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 server
> > without a frontend.
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > I have no idea why the article would say that, but I see what
> > you mean...
> > I'm thinking it's because it covers both Ex2000 and Ex2003.
> >
> > But, I've done it several times before personally, and have
> > not had any
> > issues.  Have you at least tried it?
> >
> > t
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Eric Beza" <Eric.Beza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 4:04 PM
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 server
> > without a
> > frontend.
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Comments like this worry me a little :o)
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/guides/E
> > 2k3FrontBack/646f1aea-63a3-4696-91f5-7976eaaa71f4.mspx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, 5 August 2005 8:47 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 
> server without a
> > frontend.
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Just go to the Servers container in System Manager, right
> > click the server,
> > go to properties, and check "This is a front end server"  in
> > the General
> > tab.  No need to move the boxes.  Note that you can't select
> > this option on
> > a cluster node, but if you had a cluster, you'd be sharing 
> the cluster
> > resource instance anyway...
> >
> > t
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Eric Beza" <Eric.Beza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 3:05 PM
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 
> server without a
> > frontend.
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Really, how do I go about doing that. In the Sybex Exch2003
> > manual I have it
> > says to move all mailboxes off
> > a server before making it a FE.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, 5 August 2005 12:46 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 
> server without a
> > frontend.
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Indeed. You are no longer bound to having a
> > non-mailbox-hosting server in
> > Ex2003 in order to make it a FE server as you were in Ex2000.
> >
> > t
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:05 AM
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 
> server without a
> > frontend.
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Hey Tim,
> >
> > Does that mean the FE in Exch2003 can host mailboxes?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Tom
> > www.isaserver.org/shinder
> > Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
> > http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:02 AM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 server
> > > without a frontend.
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > FYI- In Ex2003, you don't have install a separate FE server
> > > as you did in
> > > Ex2000... You can just set one of the existing ones as a FE
> > > server in the
> > > server properties.
> > >
> > > t
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:52 PM
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 server
> > > without a
> > > frontend.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > Hi Eric,
> > >
> > > That's right. You'll need to bind a second address to the external
> > > interface.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Tom
> > > www.isaserver.org/shinder
> > > Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
> > > http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Eric [mailto:Eric.Beza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:46 PM
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> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 server
> > > > without a frontend.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > >
> > > > It is telling me that the original listener is using a
> > > > siminlar address
> > > > and port and can not overlap.
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