RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 server without a frontend.

  • From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:21:42 -0500

Hi Tim,

Great info! When did they release that Exch2003 thingie? ;-)

Thanks for fixing my second sight. Now I don't need to get new glasses.

Tom
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MVP -- ISA Firewalls

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:19 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 server 
> without a frontend.
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> That's probably because of all hoops we had to jump through 
> for an FE-BE 
> Ex2000 config-- your brain gets "used" to thinking that way...
> 
> Not only did you have to have a separate FE in Ex2000, but 
> you also had to 
> make sure you secured the FE-to-BE authentication traffic, as it was 
> required to be basic authentication over HTTP.  While the User-to-FE 
> connection could certainly be HTTPS with your choice of 
> authentication 
> mechanisms, the FE-to-BE call *had* to be basic auth over 
> HTTP.   I always 
> had to do an IPSec policy from the FE to all BE's in order to 
> secure that 
> traffic.
> 
> At least in Ex2003 the FE-to-BE authentication can be set to 
> NTLM (v1, v2 
> based on config) to obviate the trivial capture of basic 
> auth.  Of course, 
> the mail traffic passed between the boxes is still HTTP and 
> viewable in net 
> captures. (I still use IPSec to secure the traffic between 
> the two boxes, 
> actually)
> 
> There... That should make you feel better about your eyes ;)
> t
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:51 AM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 server 
> without a 
> frontend.
> 
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> That's great!
> 
> But you know, I think I need new glasses, because I've setup
> front-end/back-end Exch2003 boxes and even homed mailboxes on both
> devices. Its amazing how I get locked into a certain 
> world-view in spite
> of what I've seen before my own eyes :)
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Tom
> www.isaserver.org/shinder
> Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
> http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:46 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 server
> > without a frontend.
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Indeed. You are no longer bound to having a
> > non-mailbox-hosting server in
> > Ex2003 in order to make it a FE server as you were in Ex2000.
> >
> > t
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:05 AM
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 server
> > without a
> > frontend.
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Hey Tim,
> >
> > Does that mean the FE in Exch2003 can host mailboxes?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Tom
> > www.isaserver.org/shinder
> > Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
> > http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:02 AM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 server
> > > without a frontend.
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > FYI- In Ex2003, you don't have install a separate FE server
> > > as you did in
> > > Ex2000... You can just set one of the existing ones as a FE
> > > server in the
> > > server properties.
> > >
> > > t
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:52 PM
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 server
> > > without a
> > > frontend.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > Hi Eric,
> > >
> > > That's right. You'll need to bind a second address to the external
> > > interface.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Tom
> > > www.isaserver.org/shinder
> > > Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
> > > http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Eric [mailto:Eric.Beza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:46 PM
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> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA2004, two backend Exch 2003 server
> > > > without a frontend.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > >
> > > > It is telling me that the original listener is using a
> > > > siminlar address
> > > > and port and can not overlap.
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