[isalist] Re: IE Proxy settings vs. ISA FWC

  • From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:49:38 -0700

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RFC 2616 & 2617 are the starting points.


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-----Original Message-----
From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Danny
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 07:55
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: IE Proxy settings vs. ISA FWC

Hi Jim, 

I will check, but I think this is the main culprit.

The app dev would like to know which RFC's you are referring to - they 
developers are interested.

Thanks,

...D


On 10/15/06, Jim Harrison <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

        It will depend on other application that think they know how to use the 
browser settings.

        Do you have an more that behave this way?

         

        BTW, I have been successful in getting one app dev to change his code 
to be more RFC-compliant.

        A rare case, to be sure, but it's still numbered among the "wins"…

         

        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: 
isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf 
Of Danny
        Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:52 PM
        
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: IE Proxy settings vs. ISA FWC

         

        Thanks, Jim. I will try to get a capture. In the meantime, I am trying 
to think of all the "cons" associated with disabling IE proxy settings and 
solely using the FWC.
        
        - Dan

        On 10/13/06, Jim Harrison <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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        BTDT; if the app thinks "it knows best" you're screwed.
        I'll bet that if you get a crapture of this traffic in the failure 
state, it's trying to make "GET https://blah"; when it should be making "CONNECT 
https://blah";.
        
        Unfortunately, there's no good workaround short of disabling the 
browser settings. 
        
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        -----Original Message-----
        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Danny
        Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:21
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Subject: [isalist] Re: IE Proxy settings vs. ISA FWC
        
        When the IE proxy settings are enabled the app attempts to utilize 
those settings regardless of whether or not the ISA firewall client is enabled. 
When the proxy settings are not enabled and the firewall client is enabled, the 
app is able to function via the FWC. 
        
        
        On 10/13/06, Jim Harrison <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
        
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                "does not work"?
                Doe is change its behavior based on these settings, or do the 
settings have no effect at all?
        
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                -----Original Message----- 
                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Danny
                Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 08:35 
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] IE Proxy settings vs. ISA FWC
        
                Up to date WinXP Pro install and ISA 2004 SP1 on Win2003 SP1... 
all HTTP and HTTPS connects are restricted to a specific AD group. 
        
                A new app that we are testing on the client connects through 
HTTP/S and does not work via IE's web proxy settings. Of course, when we 
disable the IE proxy settings and enable the FWC (Firewall Client) the app 
works fine. 
        
                Long-term, if we cannot convince the vendor to fix their app, 
what are the pros and cons of disabling IE's proxy settings and using the FWC 
as sole interface to authenticate against the ISA proxy/firewall. 
        
                Thanks,
        
                ...D
        
        
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