RE: Hardware Needed

You'd need to create another private network, like a 192.168.1.1 interface
on the Cisco and a 192.168.1.2 interface on the ISA.

This is exactly what you want:



       the world
           |       
           |66.x.x.x (public address from provider)
         Cisco
           |192.168.1.1
           |
           |
           |192.168.1.2
     -----ISA----
     |           |      
     |           |
   10.8.100.x    10.8.102.x 


Replace the Cisco with a NLB from Rainfinity like Rainwall or Raincoat and
use both IP's if you'd like.



-----Original Message-----
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My Next question is about the Nic 1 that connects to the cisco.

          ISP Provider 66.x.x.x
              | 
              v
Port 1 ----> Cisco ----> Port 2
  |            |
Empty          v
              ISA ( 3 Nics )
               | 
      Nic 1 --- Nic 2 --- Nic 3
       |         |         |
       v         v         v
   Connect to  10.8.100.2  10.8.102.2
     Cisco
   (???.???.???.???)

What will the IP be of the cisco so that both 10.8.100.x and 10.8.102.x
can see the outside world. I lack in the routing aspect. 

Thanks 

For your help

Dan 

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Both networks will be on different NICs of ISA.
So both networks will use their respective ISA NIC as the default
gateway . 


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-----Original Message-----
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Sorry, another question. I am weak on the routing aspect of networking.
But if I have 2 networks 10.8.100.x and 10.8.102.x what will my gateway
be so that both networks can use that gateway to get out into the world.

Thanks

Dan

-----Original Message-----
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Well, just another thought.... Stick a NLB out in front and use both
IP's... Not like it'd help much, since they are both probably from the
same provider and wouldn't add much in the department in redundancy....
But it would increase overall available bandwidth....

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Hi Troy,

Exactly how I do it (although I skip the Cisco and use Netopia or
Nortel). 


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-----Original Message-----
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Ok, let's lose 1 of the 2 Public IP's for the sake of better
understanding....

So you have 2 private class c networks.

Let's try this once
       the world
           |           
           |
     -----ISA----
     |           |      
     |           |
   10.8.100.x    10.8.102.x 

3 NICs in the ISA would do it.  Skip the Cisco (only time you'll EVER
here me say that) since you really don't need it unless you'd want to
stick another subnet in there for some reason and get this:

       the world
           |       Public side
           |
         Cisco
           |           Private 192.168.1.x network
           |
     -----ISA----
     |           |      
     |           |
   10.8.100.x    10.8.102.x 

I'm guessing that you have 2 Public IP's from the fact you have 2
buildings that were separate and each one had it's own.....

-----Original Message-----
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Currently we have 2 different networks set up for 2 different buildings.
So each Cisco port has its own Public IP. What I do not want to do is
join both networks. They need to remain separate. 

So you are saying that I should have the

                           ISA
                            |
                            v
Port 1 (10.8.100.1) <---> Cisco <---> Port 2(10.8.102.1)
  |                                     |
  v                                     v
Switch                               Switch

Am I understanding you correct? 

Thanks

Dan

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Hi Dan,

Why do you need to LAN networks? Are you using multiple public netblocks
or ISPs?

What are the advantages of this approach? If you need multiple protected
networks, put them behind the ISA firewall. The ISA firewall will allow
you one default gateway. 

HTH,

Tom
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-----Original Message-----
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The Cisco router has 2 public IP's to it. One for each or the ports on
the back. So one port is the 10.8.100.1 and the other is 10.8.102.1 I
then what to go from the Cisco and these 2 networks to the ISA.

Cisco
Port 1 <---- Cisco ---- > Port 2
               |
               v
              ISA 

So now I am wondering how many Nics I need to make this possible. With
one network this is easy but now with multiple makes it much more
complicated.

Dan

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Actually, do you have 3 fa interfaces on the router or is this a router
on a stick config?

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How are you going to set up ISA on a Cisco Router???
haha, just kidding.  Really wishing it was Friday right now...... 

As long as ISA will sit between those 2 networks you'll need at least 2
nics.  ISA won't join the two networks.

Pictorally:

Good (2 nics required):
Port1 <-----> ISA <-----> Port2


Not Good (get RainConnect instead):
Port1 <------
             |
             v
            ISA ----- <somewhere else>
             ^
             |
Port2 <------


Also Good (3 nics required, DMZ-type setup):
        <somewhere else>
               ^
               |
               v
Port1 <-----> ISA <-----> Port 2


-Shawn

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I am going to set up an ISA on a Cisco Router with two ports: 10.8.100.1
& 10.8.102.1 b/c of 2 separate networks. How many Nics am I going to
need on my ISA so that I can use on server to firewall both networks.

Thank You

Dan

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