Hi Jim, Thanks for that link! I should have looked there first. One other question, where are the rules for smtp filter being=20 Stored? I've not been able to loop through and add new=20 Stuff via program. For example the suggestion that we Add our outlook rules to the filter. I'm close but As bill now says no cigar! Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 10:21 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Firewall Client http://www.ISAserver.org Check out my ISA client articles at: http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ http://isatools.org Read the help / books / articles! On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:00:35 -0700 "josephk" <josephk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: http://www.ISAserver.org Hi All, On my own installation I'm not using the firewall client going out from a back to back network. Are there some documents that discuss the pro's and con's of not using the firewall client that You could point me too? Thank you, Joseph